PBP: Joe Biden vs Donald Trump :: The Election That Just Won’t End Thread :: [R]

No kidding. How conceivably could that money have been spent? On a PR campaign?

 

The Bowling Green massacre occurred in Edison County. Little known fact: It was the work of Nambian terrorists.

 

This election has shook me to the core. I was still optimistic that people would see the obvious issues with him, but no, they still came back and voted for him. This goes against my belief that the "general" public can't make the right decisions and a large percentage of them are part of cults (see any religious org).

So, I'm no longer surprised, but I am disappointed/worried/unsure. For the past 20-30 years, I don't believe are current government structure is adequate to take us forward. The past four years has proven me right. How are we going to move forward is the question? I continue to vote in every election and pretty much only voter for democrat's because the alternative is so bad.

My wife has stated that if I had supported Trump she would have divorced me and we have lost a few friends who continued on the GOP bandwagon and supported Trump.

It's a sad, sad world we live in. For the first time, I expect it to get worse.

 

Yeah, definitely no the loudest, but once you know it is Hail to the Chief, you can pick it out pretty easily.

 

Me too, most days. But "most days" don't include a video of Kenneth Copeland's exorcism of Covid-19 set to heavy metal guitar music.

 

Even Bill Barr can’t find the fraud.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/1...w-administration?referringSource=articleShare

 

Oh well.....El Douchey was right, DOJ is part of the conspiracy as well.

Attorney General William Barr told the Associated Press that the Justice Department hasn’t uncovered widespread voting fraud that could have changed 2020 election outcome.
“The comments are especially direct coming from Barr, who has been one of the president’s most ardent allies. Before the election, he had repeatedly raised the notion that mail-in voter fraud could be especially vulnerable to fraud during the coronavirus pandemic as Americans feared going to polls and instead chose to vote by mail.”

 

Rudy is not happy with Barr...

President Trump's lawyers, Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, take a swipe at AG Bill Barr after he said that there's no sign of widespread voting fraud -- saying basically that he hasn't looked hard enough. pic.twitter.com/Xp36GhDfaL

— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) December 1, 2020

 

CANT. MAKE. THIS. SHIT. UP..... V23.

COURT NEWS: Former Trump attorney Sidney Powell has filed a federal lawsuit seeking to have @realDonaldTrump declared winner of Wisconsin's electoral votes.

Among other things, suit seeks 48 hours of security footage from the TCF Center from Nov. 3-4.

TCF Center is in Detroit.

— JR Ross (@jrrosswrites) December 1, 2020

 

I have family and friends that supported Trump. We don't talk about politics and get along fine. I could discuss politics with them, but I wouldn't change their mind. I decided it's better to maintain the relationships.

 

Well, if the campaign is allegedly collecting donations for legal battles, I guess they have to make it look like they are making a little effort, I suppose "little effort" is being generous, here.

 

Trump Reduced To Filing Lawsuit To Overturn Single Ballot In Placerville, Idaho https://t.co/sUkEZWiAUK pic.twitter.com/w0H13zNDNa

— The Onion (@TheOnion) December 1, 2020

 

Another way to look is at the total votes.

Perdue got about 800 more votes than Trump, so in theory everyone that voted for Perdue voted for Trump (obviously that is too simplistic).

2,462,617 vs 2,461,837

But on the Democratic side about 100K people that voted for Biden, voted for a 3rd party candidate. (ok, that is also too simplistic, maybe some just did not vote on the rest of the ballot)

2,474,507 vs 2,374,519

the 3rd party candidate got 115,039.

I do wonder if the story is that some people (independents, unaffiliated, 3rd party people, ect) were motivated enough to vote against Trump on top of the ticket, but then just not motivated enough to vote down ticket (or not motivated to vote for democrats down ticket).

It also looks like there was no 3rd party candidate for President in Georgia, I wonder if that backfired on republicans, maybe if the libertarian party was on the ballot, she could have taken votes from Biden (based on the senate numbers)

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/georgia


Edit: based on the reported numbers so far, about 16K more people voted in the Senate race than on the Presidential race. Maybe those are your hardcore Libertarians.

Pres. 4,936,344 vs Sen 4,952,175

 

Georgia election official @GabrielSterling addresses Trump directly and demands he stop inciting violence under false voter fraud allegations. pic.twitter.com/fckBKJY6mX

— The Recount (@therecount) December 1, 2020

Meanwhile...

William Barr disputed allegations made by Donald Trump and some of his allies that there has been widespread fraud in the election and said people were confusing the role of the federal criminal justice system.

 

Why would a Libertarian ever vote for a Democrat?

 

Just a few more frivolous lawsuits and the Trump can take his PAC money and do more useful stuff like investing it in grifter conventions at Trump Hotels and Trump Golf Courses while paying his kids.

 

Looking at Michigan, another race with Senator election

Trump got around 8K more votes than James

Biden got 70K more votes than Peters.

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/michigan


Arizona

Trump +24K on McSalley

Biden -44K on Kelly; Yes Biden got less votes than Kelly.

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/arizona

 

Maybe they did not, that is why the Senate race got more votes than the Presidential race.

But I would seem/appear that 100K people voted for Biden, and then voted for the Libertarian in the Senate race. (Not everyone that votes Libertarian is a libertarian, they could be protest voters, or both sides do it voters)

 

So Barr gives in on voter fraud, but appoints John Durham as special counsel to investigate the Russia investigation.

 

Historically, Democrats were against the death penalty, torture, increasing military spending, military intervention, the War on Drugs, Three Strikes and You're Out, and criminalizing consensual sexual activities between adults. I mean, not always strongly against, depending on the Democrat and the prevailing political winds, but absolutely for certain the Democratic Party was more against those things than the Republicans were.

I'm sure there are other items as well where Dems align with Libertarians. But yeah, your point is valid, Libertarians ultimately seem to vote on "economic freedoms," not social issues. Well except maybe guns.

 

I'm sorry but American Libertarians are diametrically opposed to Democrats, especially in the areas of government regulation, taxes and guns.

Most of the ones I've met think Republicans are namby, pamby liberals.