Real Madrid vs Shakhtar Donetsk | CL Group Stage #5 | 01.12.2020 | 18:55 CET

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  1. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s funny because as erratic as he is in attack, I was feeling like Mendy might actually cause some disruption to help us score more than say Asensio or Rodrygo. He was too sloppy though for sure. I don’t have anything negative to say about Nacho, Kroos or Modric in this one. We badly miss Fede and Dani. The impact of Ramos being out is a no brainer and Hazard is just a shambles.
     
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  2. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I think we’re just luring Europe into a false sense of security.
     
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  3. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There you go, now you’re talking.
     
  4. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I expect some serious consequences for this terrible run. I wouldn't be surprised if Zidane just quit by the end of the night. It really has been that bad. Florentino has to find some answers or we're looking worse than Barca, and that's a really low bar.
     
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  5. MadridUSA

    MadridUSA Member

    Dec 2, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    This is due to personnel decisions. Not just from today, but what’s been done in the past few years.

    Do you think it was Perez or Zidane who pushed out Achraf, Llorente, Reguilon, and James? Perez or Zidane who decided to make Lucas Vazquez an integral part of the team? The final say, of course, is Perez’s, but it’s pretty clear Zidane was the driving force behind those decisions. Why would Perez want to get rid of any of those guys or play Vazquez?

    I give Zidane credit for backing Fede, and I don’t hold the Hazard and Jovic acquisitions against him, but his personnel decisions are the main reason we’re in this mess.

    Sometimes I wonder if Perez keeps him around and gives him latitude over transfers only because he thinks he’ll help him land Mbappe one of these years.
     
  6. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goal for Inter Milan. Good news for us.
     
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  7. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Can we PLEASE at least agree that Varane needs to be benched for good. Just play someone, anyone else. Hell, I will take Valverde as a defender over Varane right now.
     
  8. undertow

    undertow Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Nov 22, 2020
    You want Zidane to quit again so he can absolve himself of any responsibility :D :ROFLMAO:

    Blame it on Florentino. You literally support Zidane FC. You are more concerned with how Zidane looks than how the club actually performs.
    There's no manager out there that could do better? We just played Shaktar who lost 6-0 and 4-0 to Mochengladbach.

    The Shaktar guy just tactically titty ********ed the shit out of Zidane.
     
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  9. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
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    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zidane is good for the club because of his stature as a legend, his ability to deflect pressure and the press with ease, and his man management with our key players. Other managers have shown that it isn’t as easy as one would think to get the stars onboard. But there is a lot he can do better, and he needs to answer for that. I’m not sure what I want to happen at this point, it’s clear we aren’t playing well at all, but I’m also not convinced our squad makeup, especially in attack, is top quality. Also, do we even have the money to add star players right now? Tough times, really unsure about what comes next.
     
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  10. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Whoever is pulling the absences card. Don't. We lost to Shaktar at home and they had like 8 bench players on. Don't do that to yourself and to us who have to read this kind of bullshit.
     
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  11. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    he speaks french. will never happen. I'm tired of writing this.
     
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  12. undertow

    undertow Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Nov 22, 2020
    Not one Shaktar player would get into our 24 man Squad.

    Not one Cadiz player would get into our 24 man Squad

    Not one Alaves player would get into our 24 man Squad.

    ...."but yeah man this squad isn't good enough and it's Florentino's fault for not buying MBappe. Poor Zidane man. He needs a better squad, it's not fair. No one can improve this. No one"
     
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  13. Ssr9

    Ssr9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Nov 10, 2008
    Sydney
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Mali
    One of my biggest issues with Zizou right now is that he's not taking this "opportunity" (if you can call it that) of really getting the most development out of our young guys....honestly the way things are going with Hazard/Asensio.... I would give every minute I could to Vini/Rodrygo/Odegaard to help them get to the next level as quickly as possible. It's not like there's anything to loose offensively.... Play the young guys, if we can get one or two of these guys to that world class level... it would be a big achievement...

    Stop wasting minutes on Asensio/Isco/Mariano and sometimes LV (when he plays right wing).
     
  14. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Zidane prefers to recover Isco over Jovic. That right there tells you all you need to know about his priorities and poor player management skills.
     
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  15. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Yeah so we should definitely get rid of him and bring Pooch. Definitely
     
  16. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    If that would be better for the club, why not?
     
  17. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Not right now. Let him finish the season.
    A new coach deserves a full pre-season .
     
  18. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably not the time for this comment, but imagine Real and Inter make it out of this group. With a win today, Inter would have the tiebreaker against Gladbach. If we win and they win in the last round, that would be the result.
     
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  19. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
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    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be wild and honestly seem pretty unfair. Haha. But I’d take it in a heartbeat.
     
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  20. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    And didn’t we lose against Shaktar in the first leg game when 8 of their starters were missing due to covid?
    This is more than just us lacking quality
     
  21. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    wait so we can still finish first?wow.....but Zidane..i mean 0 confidence is beating Borusia
     
  22. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If the game was played on paper, we'd win every game. This isn't about the quality of the players. It's about the intensity, the drive, the determination, and the discipline. These players lack all of those. I expected to show some character today and they get a giant D minus (because at least they played a goalless first half well).
     
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  23. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    We have all the other teams doing everything they can to get us through and we're probably going to botch it lol.
     
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  24. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Legit. If Inter wins they're doing Real Madrid a huge favor. Probably as a thank you for Hackimi.
     
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  25. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    YS?! I've been advocating for that move from game 1 for Mendy!

    Anyway. I'm more Madridista than all yall.
     
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