Kevin Agudelo - News & comments

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Baal88, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    i think 3 are different...agudelo, carrascal and cucho......cucho i only see as 9 in queiroz system.....i dont see him opening the field and neither cutting inside.......

    meanwhile carrascal usually start a lot of plays from the wing that can finish in a pass... the goal from yesterday is a good example...i agree with baal...at least for characteristics...


    not so sure about agudelo as wing....because he isnt so fast.......but i can see him in the cuadrado role in the line of 3....

    luis suarez is playing as wing in granada...dont know where queiroz want to use him
     
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  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yes, different characteristics and different personalities but all three I do not see being called anytime soon. Especially since they do play Wing at their clubs for the most part.

    Hope I am wrong. I'd like to see all three get a chance if they are in form.
     
  3. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    I think Cucho could play the Muriel role but Diaz and Muriel are better for that role, Cucho at this point would not be the first choice attacker across the front 3 but I think his best chance is to get in as a tactical option in games to defend from the front, as his offense gets better or with injuries though I think he'd be useful. Playing at Getafe you can already see his defensive work is top notch, but his finishing is still a little inconsistent. Morelos and Duvan are clear ahead of him for 9's in this call up as well as Diaz and Muriel for attacking spots in the front 3 and James is a lock in the other spot but for me to close out a game with a lead he'd be a good option to bust his ass off the bench.
     
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  4. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    This kid's team annoys me. Not starting today after a great performance in their biggest win of the season. Only had 2 other starts, one in which he was MOTM and the other where he had a solid debut.

    So many European clubs have this silly conservatism with foreign players. Doesn't make sense at all to not play one of your top performers when you're likely going to get demoted...
     
  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    it was a draw.....

    in the other side duvan wasnt fine today...
     
  6. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Same, though one things I like about Seria A and B, is that reserves, bench players, starters, always have to train hard to stay fit. I feel other leagues aren't so focused on the physicals form of their individual players.

    Leave it to the Italins, the will guarantee your heart rate be at 200 everyday.
     
  7. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hmm I disagree. If anything, the appeal of the league is that is not one that relies on physicality. That's why Colombians have done well there and older players do well there. It's not the high press and running for 90 minutes style of the EPL for example. More traditional football in Italy
     
  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Duvan had to developed a lo of in physics...to make a difference......high pressing isnt the only "physical" aspect in football......

    a lot of colombians and foreings have failed there......as well as old players.......zalatan is not a good example, two years ago in england he was rocking too...
     
  9. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Zlatan isn't the only one. Many old players do well in Italy. Quagiarella for example, or Immobile that failed in other leagues. Dzeko.

    I'm not knocking Serie A. I'm just saying it's more technique than based on physical attributes. That's why many people preferred James to go there than EPL.

    And serie a is by far the league where Colombians have performed the best overall
     
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  10. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I guess my basis are more from the 80's. When Serie A was considered best in the world. But I would like to think that though the level of quality has gone down since then, that the standards in training hasn't changed. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if training was adopted to other leagues around the world.
     
  11. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #86 ryu79, Nov 27, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2020
    I think the quality of the league is driven a ton by funding. Those Seria A leagues were outspending their competitors. The Premier League took a huge competitive leap with the influx of foreign money.

    Even our domestic league in the 80s was disproportionately strong when the teams had Narco money to invest in bringing the top Argentine and Uruguayan players to play in Colombia.

    I think the Seria A today still benefits from technique/tactical discipline but outside of Juve and a handful of teams they don't compete in wages and therefore the talent level isn't what it was in the 80s. The point was well made on a recent thread that Duvan could stand to make a ton more money leaving Seria A though it probably wouldnt make sense from a sporting point of view.

    Agree with JMezzy that it's definitely been the best fit for our NT through the years whether that be in Asprilla's era or today.
     
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  12. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ^^

    Yeah true, I was watching clips of old games, and the pitches were horrendous. Players would literally take your legs out with out batting an eye. My, how's times changed. People in highschool would call me old school due to the fact I would tackle like gattuso every scrimage.

    Either the ball passes me or the player but not both mentality.
     
  13. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Viene jugando bastante bien en el ultimo mes. Esta jugando de falso 9 y esta desquiciando a todos, los rivales y a sus mismos compañeros jaja. Ayer contra Milan robó una bola en medio campo y básicamente creó el primer gol de Spezia. Igual es algo que me gusta mucho, tiene buenos movimientos y su capacidad para crear y distribuir en ese espacio simplemente hace que se destaque. En mi opinión, detrás de un punta robusto seria aun mejor.

     
  14. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    He was a beast yesterday and last week, and those results will probably be the facor that keeps Spezia in Seria A.

    I like him as an 8, but his coach likes his pace and physicality more than anything else. The kid really tires out defenders.
     
  15. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Call the beast! Love the physicality.
     
  16. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Yeah I think this kid is destined to be a really good 8. He can drop deep and operate there and jump into the attack when needed. Him and Alzate could both be really good 8's for us very soon.
     
  17. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    was thinking that. Tho is Uribe the 8 for Rueda?
     
  18. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Elected best MVP of the match



     
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  19. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Not sure....maybe rafa carrascal/cantillo will adapt better to rueda idea...
     
  20. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    We'll have to see, think Agudelo probably gonna need some time to get bedded into the squad. Honestly I don't think Uribe offers us enough in that position to be a regular starter. He's fine, but I think Alzate gives us more on the ball right now and he and Cantillo provide more playmaking from deep which is what we have missed over the last 4-5 years, Agudelo should be the next up.
     
  21. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Agudelo is a very different player though with a lot more athleticism. Cantillo a lot more thoughtful, Alzate probably a balance but I also don't see as explosive physically as Agudelo on the turn.
     
  22. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I like this kid and Alzate just don’t think they are ready to be thrown in against the lions of Brazil and Argentina.

    maybe for the WC
     
  23. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Yeah Alzate really can't play wide or too advanced and be that effective there, he's definitely someone who's at his best in the trenches in midfield, whereas Aguedlo is a different profile, he can play the Cuadrado role that we've been using on James side. I think they all 3 offer something different which is great for us to tactically be able to mix and match.
     
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  24. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Watched Spezia yesterday to specifically get a look at Agudelo. His team made a massive comeback against Parma, but I didn't feel him as active taking the game by the scruff of the neck as I'd hoped. You can see the pace though, the kid plays fast.

    I'd call him up just to see him in person vs. the others and see if he handles the pressure of the NT jersey.
     
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  25. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    is he part of the typical starting 11?
     

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