UEFA Women's Champions League 2020/21

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by shlj, Oct 1, 2019.

  1. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    The last qualifying games are coming up:

    (GMT times)
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    The round 2 game in Lithuania is set for live coverage on Youtube (KO 12:00 CET) and on Gintra's Facebook. (Preview: fkgintra.lt)

    Gintra-Universitetas v Vålerenga
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTVWMQrTv0s
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    St Pölten are leading the Austrian league with 9 wins in 9, while CSKA Moscow were confirmed as the Russian 2020 season champions a few days ago. (Preview: skn-frauen.at)


    [​IMG] [​IMG] More highlights from yesterday, the teams from Slovenia and Hungary:

    ŽNK Pomurje [blue] 4-1 Ferencváros
    Špela Kolbl 27', Kaja Korošec 37'p, 73', 80' / Evelin Mosdóczi 53'p
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmqUP5LJRs
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  2. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Gintra 0 - 7 Vålerenga

    It was raining sideways in Lithuania and the pitch looked very heavy. Gintra started pretty well in the first ten minutes when they had energy, but then had nothing to offer after Vålerenga scored following a couple of corners.
     
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  3. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Here are the 32 teams. The draw is on Tuesday and will have travel restrictions like in the qualifiers.

    Seeded
    Lyon (FRA, holders) 145.680
    Wolfsburg (GER) 114.090
    Barcelona (ESP) 102.140
    Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) 98.680
    Bayern München (GER) 78.090
    Manchester City (ENG) 69.645
    Slavia Praha (CZE) 65.365
    Chelsea (ENG) 63.645
    Rosengård (SWE) 59.015
    Atlético Madrid (ESP) 47.140
    Fortuna Hjørring (DEN) 46.385
    Brøndby (DEN) 45.385
    LSK Kvinner (NOR) 44.075
    BIIK-Kazygurt (KAZ) 38.570
    Glasgow City (SCO)* 36.590
    Zürich (SUI) 34.920

    Unseeded
    Sparta Praha (CZE) 31.365
    Fiorentina (ITA) 29.065
    FC Minsk (BLR)* 25.270
    St. Pölten (AUT)* 23.950
    Ajax (NED) 23.890
    ŽFK Spartak (SRB)* 20.615
    Göteborg (SWE) 20.015
    Juventus (ITA) 17.065
    PSV Eindhoven (NED) 10.890
    Vålerenga (NOR)* 9.075
    Górnik Łęczna (POL)* 8.285
    Servette (SUI) 7.920
    WFC Pomurje (SVN)* 6.980
    WFC-2 Kharkiv (UKR)* 4.800
    SL Benfica (POR)* 3.960
    Lanchkhuti (GEO)* 0.000

    *Came through qualifying
     
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  4. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    As usual, a lot of very dangerous unseeded teams for the seeded ones. I wonder how the Covid-19 considerations will come into place: will they build geographical "groups" like at the previous stage?
     
  5. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Well, I think the growth in WoSo in Europe recently is factoring into a reduction in non-competitive teams. (Or, put another way, a growth in competitiveness from previously middling leagues like ITA, ESP, NED, etc.)

    Usually, if there are "strong" teams in the unseeded category, it's because they're new to continental play despite coming from otherwise strong leagues, while weaker teams with more history getting their places in the seeded category - an oversight of the system. Now, though, there seem to be significantly more "strong" teams in the unseeded category than there are "weak" teams seeded. I could argue that nearly half of the unseeded teams could be seeded, but unlike in previous years, there aren't nearly as many good options for who they should bump. This is, BIIK, Glasgow, and Zurich as the only potential drops I can see at first glance, but none of those three are pushovers, either. Those three were the only questionable seeds last year, too, but last year there were only four seed-deserving teams (Arsenal, Fiorentina, and both SWE teams); now, there's seven (both ITA, both NED, Sparta, Goteburg, Valerenga).

    The group stage can't come soon enough. Thankfully, only one year to wait!
     
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  6. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I love the fact that a side with a 0.000 coefficient made it to that stage. Congratulations to the Georgian champion. Will Trump claim that win ?
     
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  7. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    You feel sorry for the teams near France, Germany and England.
     
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  8. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    ooooo that's a good point... Now I want to make a quick-n-dirty map of seeded vs unseeded teams to attempt to predict the match-ups... Benfica probably gonna get smacked down by one of the Spain teams. I wonder if BIIK is gonna get paired with Kharkiv, or if BIIK is soooo far away that the organizers say "eh, it doesn't matter" with them.
     
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  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I fear Italian teams getting paired with OL and PSG. :unsure: But maybe there are other possible patterns than a France-Italy one...
     
  10. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Here are my propositions:




    Group 1

    Slavia Praha (CZE) 65.365

    BIIK-Kazygurt (KAZ) 38.570

    WFC-2 Kharkiv (UKR)* 4.800

    Lanchkhuti (GEO)* 0.000


    Group 2

    Barcelona (ESP) 102.140

    Atlético Madrid (ESP) 47.140

    SL Benfica (POR)* 3.960

    Juventus (ITA) 17.065



    Group 3

    Wolfsburg (GER) 114.090

    Bayern München (GER) 78.090

    St. Pölten (AUT)* 23.950

    Górnik Łęczna (POL)* 8.285


    Group 4

    Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) 98.680

    Chelsea (ENG) 63.645

    Fiorentina (ITA) 29.065

    Servette (SUI) 7.920


    Group 5

    Fortuna Hjørring (DEN) 46.385
    Brøndby (DEN) 45.385

    Sparta Praha (CZE) 31.365
    FC Minsk (BLR)* 25.270


    Group 6

    Rosengård (SWE) 59.015
    LSK Kvinner (NOR) 44.075
    PSV Eindhoven (NED) 10.890
    Ajax (NED) 23.890


    Group 7


    Manchester City (ENG) 69.645
    Glasgow City (SCO)* 36.590

    Göteborg (SWE) 20.015
    Vålerenga (NOR)* 9.075


    Group 8

    Zürich (SUI) 34.920
    Lyon (FRA, holders) 145.680

    ŽFK Spartak (SRB)* 20.615
    WFC Pomurje (SVN)* 6.980
     
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  11. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #86 SiberianThunderT, Nov 20, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2020
    That looks pretty reasonable... That would make 2&4 the groups of death and 1&5 the groups of life. Group 5 in particular would be surprisingly even; no team about 50 or below 25, everyone has a dang good shot out. (I say 2 would be a death group b/c I think everyone there except Barca is way better than their coefficient suggests.) 6&7 would also be pretty even, but I think they're more clear-cut than 5 is.
     
  12. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    And, as I was suggesting above, this way both groups of death would have an Italian team in them! :mad:
     
  13. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    We know UEFA will spring a surprise though by pairing countries far from one another. I mean as previously mentioned Spain+ Portugal plus another unseeded team.. there are none close to those two countries except for France or Italy.
     
  14. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #89 Lechus7, Nov 23, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2020
    Group 3

    Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) 98.680
    Manchester City (ENG) 69.645
    Slavia Praha (CZE) 65.365
    Brøndby (DEN) 45.385
    *Fiorentina (ITA) 29.065
    *Göteborg (SWE) 20.015
    *Vålerenga (NOR)* 9.075
    *Górnik Łęczna (POL)* 8.285


    *unseeded (I guess)
    via Górnik page.
     
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  15. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Five clubs in each group now? Weird format.
     
  16. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Sorry. Edited
     
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  17. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Groups out on UEFAs website now:

    Group 1:

    Seeded
    1 Fortuna Hjørring (DEN)
    2 Lyon (FRA, holders)
    3 Barcelona (ESP)
    4 Zürich (SUI)

    Unseeded
    5 St. Pölten (AUT)
    6 Pomurje (SVN)
    7 Juventus (ITA)
    8 PSV Eindhoven (NED)

    Group 2:

    Seeded
    1 BIIK-Kazygurt (KAZ)
    2 Wolfsburg (GER)
    3 LSK Kvinner (NOR)
    4 Rosengård (SWE)

    Unseeded
    5 Lanchkhuti (GEO)
    6 WFC-2 Kharkiv (UKR)
    7 ŽFK Spartak (SRB)
    8 FC Minsk (BLR)

    Group 3:

    Seeded
    1 Brøndby (DEN)
    2 Slavia Praha (CZE)
    3 Paris Saint-Germain (FRA)
    4 Manchester City (ENG)

    Unseeded
    5 Göteborg (SWE)
    6 Vålerenga (NOR)
    7 Fiorentina (ITA)
    8 Górnik Łęczna (POL)

    Group 4:

    Seeded
    1 Bayern München (GER)
    2 Chelsea (ENG)
    3 Atlético Madrid (ESP)
    4 Glasgow City (SCO)

    Unseeded
    5 Sparta Praha (CZE)
    6 Ajax (NED)
    7 Benfica (POR)
    8 Servette (SUI)
     
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  18. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I knew it: I knew this geographcal rules would have damaged Italian clubs. They get the groups with OL and PSG, as I had figured. And Barcelona and Manchester City arren't much easier on paper.
     
  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yes, they both have 50% chances to get a very bad draw and go out in the first round.
    Goteborg and Valerenga won't be easy opponents for the Group 3 seeds.
     
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  20. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I'm upset seeing Lyon and Barca in the same group; any other year I'd estimate those two for finalists. IMO group 1 has two title-worthy teams, two minnows, and four moderately strong teams, so while the R32 might be interesting if the draw gets crazy, I wouldn't call it a Life group or a Death group.

    I don't expect any surprises at all in group 2; all seeded teams move to the R16, Wolfsburg wins the group.

    Group 3 is clearly the Group of Death. Every team except the POL entry would normally have a reasonable shot at the top 8. Group 4 isn't much better, though has a bit more differentiation between the top 3 and next 5.
     
  21. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    They could still meet in the final. These groups are just for this round. In the qualifiers they had new groups for the draws in both rounds.
     
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  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Ah, that's better, then. X-D
     
  23. Páll Guðmundsson

    Valur FC
    Iceland
    Sep 14, 2018
    Reykjavík
    Nat'l Team:
    Iceland
    Valur - Glasgow City full match

     
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  24. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Round of 32 draw: 9/10 & 15/16 December

    St. Pölten (AUT) vs Zürich (SUI)
    Lanchkhuti (GEO) vs Rosengård (SWE)
    Göteborg (SWE) vs Manchester City (ENG)
    Sparta Praha (CZE) vs Glasgow City (SCO)
    Juventus (ITA) vs Lyon (FRA, holders)
    ŽFK Spartak (SRB) vs Wolfsburg (GER)
    Fiorentina (ITA) vs Slavia Praha (CZE)
    Benfica (POR) vs Chelsea (ENG)
    Pomurje (SVN) vs Fortuna Hjørring (DEN)
    WFC-2 Kharkiv (UKR) vs BIIK-Kazygurt (KAZ)
    Vålerenga (NOR) vs Brøndby (DEN)
    Ajax (NED) vs Bayern München (GER)
    PSV Eindhoven (NED) vs Barcelona (ESP)
    FC Minsk (BLR) vs LSK Kvinner (NOR)
    Górnik Łęczna (POL) vs Paris Saint-Germain (FRA)
    Servette (SUI) vs Atlético Madrid (ESP)
     
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  25. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    And once again the strongest Italian team, Juventus, gets an impossible draw in the round of 32 vs OL! :devilish:

    They won't ever lift their rating to a "seeded status" if they are consistently eliminated early because of a nightmare draw: last year they had Barcelona in the round of 32 and this year OL!!! :mad:
     

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