News: The rebuild goes on... - The summer 2020 transfer thread

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  1. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    Can only really judge the Cavani signing when we know what rest of window is.
     
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  2. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
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    To Sancho or not to Sancho...
     
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  3. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Cash flow.

    This is 100% a cash flow thing for United.
     
  4. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
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    Regardless if we get Sancho or not, this is a bad signing. If Cavani was a serious target he would have been easy to wrap up earlier this summer. We're panicking.

    If we get Sancho, then Cavani is just getting in the way of Greenwoods development. If we don't get Sancho, Cavani is just an expensive backup to Martial. Either way, this is shit and a clear picture of us not having a plan.
     
  5. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
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    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    #1855 Ashur, Oct 3, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2020

    If we were to end with these 4 by Monday, I'll be very happy (with the squad overall having been significantly improved on paper).
    We need Telles and if he's the player we expect him to be, he'd be another good acquisition, as an alternative/complement to Shaw (who does tend to get injured frequently). But Sancho is still the key and absolutely must be done to consider this a truly positive transfer window.
     
  6. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Agree with you mizzou on Cavani but also agree with sofa.

    If we get Sancho and Telles, Cavani still makes sense. Otherwise, the knives will be fully out for Woody and Judge.

    As I said earlier in the window, we needed 5 more players to fill up the squad including 2 additional attackers.
     
  7. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
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    Sancho has to come in now. No more games, no messing. If he doesn't after we spent this money., it's completely indefensible imo. 5 attackers makes sense considering how we play. But without Sancho, this doesn't work at all imo.
     
  8. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Agreed.

    I will take Dembele on loan (without an obligation to buy) but it is obviously not a unanimous opinion.
     
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  9. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
  10. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
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    Haven't the knives been out for the last 7 years? Nothing has changed. Hell, it's gotten worse - and he's still going to be there, knives or no.
     
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  11. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    Agree with much of this.

    However fact is with Ighalo going in a few months we do need a plan B striker who is experienced and a bit different to what we have. Given age, whether Cavani is more a Falcao (waste of time / money / upset to salary structure) or more an Ibra (temporary, dudnt fit style, but at least delivered something) remains to be seen.

    Sure, better options probably available, but they would have cost a fee which pulls money from elsewhere. So much bigger issue is whether this is as well as RWF, LB/CB or instead of - that is key for me. Something we need, but not the priority. Either addressing one of many needs or distracting from the main ones.

    I suspect there is an intended plan from Ole, however have long since given up hope of Woody / Glazers delivering on it for any manager :)

    My fear is that this is a distraction. As soon as the Sancho transfer started going properly cold thought Woody would look to Cavani as a distraction. We will know in 48 hours or so ...
     
  12. Naboomagnoli

    Naboomagnoli Member+

    May 31, 2007
    I think there are positives to this signing in terms of Cavani helping Greenwood and even Martial improve certain aspects of playing the 9. And 1+1 at £200k is not as bad as I thought it was going to be.

    But also my eyes rolled so far back into my skull that I had to hold my phone to my anus to finish reading Romano's tweet.

    There's no way we're signing Cavani AND Sancho. Greenwood was the backup 9 if we signed Sancho, we couldn't get him, we couldn't get Chiesa and we doubt we can get Dembele. Ighalo's looking a bit grim since the restart and Jovic was a no. So we're on Plan F. Appropriately.
     
  13. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    We need Sancho since the team needs creativity from wider positions.

    Will be quite terrible if we do not end up addressing it.

    Looks like we are signing the 18 year old Uruguayan as well.
     
  14. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
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    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
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    #1864 Ashur, Oct 3, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2020


    Another deal that will likely go down to the wire.
     
  15. LA. MAN UNITED

    LA. MAN UNITED Member+

    May 22, 2006
    New Orleans
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    Typical dumpster diving, bargain bin Woody bullshit.
     
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  16. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    At least, this Pellestri kid looks very good.

    Penarol and Uruguayan fans rate him very highly, lots of comments comparing his potential favorably to Valverde (RM).
     
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  17. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    #1867 Ashur, Oct 3, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2020

    They'll back down, when he comes up with the money they want. Pretty simple really...

    There's really no reason, no reason at all for us not to get Sancho. The club can say whatever they want but the money is clearly there if they're making the offers we've heard of in the past days.
    And if Dortmund say no (as it's probably going to happen) to this latest offer, Woodward better pony up the rest and close that deal because we can only imagine the furor if it turns we missed out on Sancho over 10-15mil...
     
  18. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Ghana
    This. All of it.
     
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  19. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    --other--
    I will say this...

    Cavani doesn't scare me or make me mad or give me hope. It is ho-hum. I think theoretically, it makese sense with a caveat. He can't be the only signing in attack.

    In a sense, it is not too different from the VDB signing. If we have an injury to a key attacker Rashford or Martial, having a replacement of this quality will be good. With no injury, it still means we have a proper option to rotate or change things from the bench.

    Also, we may have been waiting to see if we could get another striker over the line OR waiting to see if Ighalo made a good start to the season.

    I understand the concern about the wages/agent fees but I think they are overblown. Cavani is 33 but in a settled team with good creativity he's probably on the wrong side of elite but still very good.

    If the goal was to ensure that we have a striking option if we have an injury to either Martial or Rashford, then I think we've done that. Regardless of his talent, Mason is not a CF yet. He and Martial probably could stand to learn a thing or two from Cavani about positioning and timing.
     
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  20. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
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  21. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
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    According to Ole we already have the depth for this season, so I guess we don't need these signings. :coffee:
     
  22. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
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  23. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    Even porto toying with Eds Balls
     
  24. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
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  25. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    Manchester United FC
     

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