Christian Pulisic Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ussoccer97531, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    I get that. It doesn't mean anything in the context of my original post or the post I quoted.
     
  2. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    It could have been as simple as improperly stretching before making a run as fast as you possibly can to put ball in net now!

    I do agree though we will see in hopefully a few weeks as opposed to months.
     
  3. Cynical US fan

    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulisic should have passed the ball at the moment he felt the tear in his hamstring and gone to ground. By continuing towards goal at near full speed he undoubtedly caused more harm to himself. Not smart.
     
  4. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    USER name checks out
     
  5. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Easy to say sitting on a computer. Not so easy in the moment of a game.
     
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  6. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure. But way easier to say than to do. Chelsea was fighting to stay in UCL position. Chelsea had a shot at the FA Cup. Chelsea was clearly better with Pulisic on the field than not.

    Not sure what I would have done differently from what Lampard did. AND that is making a huge assumption that had Pulisic been rested more that this injury wouldn't have occurred. We simply do not know if that's the case or not.
     
  7. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This applies to almost everything we post here, no?
     
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  8. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    The issue is more that an unusual number of players under Lampard have picked up muscle injuries - he's going to have to work on that. He appears to favor a LOT of running in training, which worked for him as a player, but likely won't work for a lot of his current players. That's the issue, not just "rest". What works for Mason Mount and Willian is clearly not going to work for Pulisic and Kante.

    As far as rotation, bringing in Ziyech, Werner and potentially Havertz solves that. Given the tight schedule for the coming season, the assumption from some posters that he wouldn't start was moot - there will be so many games, players will get injured, etc. Also, bear in mind, Ziyech is already 27; he's not the "future". Pulisic will play plenty, there are now other options, though.
     
  9. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    He is no longer a small player IMO. That ship has sailed.
     
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  10. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Maybe he didn't need to shoot (the strength of it was more like a pass though, which you wanted him to do), but you don't just stop on a dime when your hamstring goes out. You can see he's limping. He took two steps when it went out and then "shot." Have you ever seen someone pull a hamstring? There's usually a couple of limp steps before the stop/ walk or fall. The only extra thing he did was kick the ball.
     
  11. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the mind was dealing with goal #2 and it immediately switched over to 'oh crap that sucks and hurts like crap'. So the remnants of 'goal #2' were still there.
     
  12. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    New managers/coaches tend to over exert their players. When you are insecure about your ability to do your job, making sure your players are in shape is the easiest way to feel like you are mitigating your lack of knowledge and/or experience in tactics and in-game situations. But the injuries eventually pile up and you end up worse off than if you had Clint Mathis as strength and conditioning coach.
     
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  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
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  14. an1310

    an1310 Member+

    Jun 2, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
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  15. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    I've had to suffer through pages and pages of posters blaming Lampard for every crime imaginable for not having played CP 90' every game and now we will have to suffer thru pages of blaming Lampard for having played Pulisic too much.
     
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  16. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Thanks doc
     
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  17. Cynical US fan

    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for recognizing my M.D. degree. How did you know? I was a Pediatric Neurologist, not an Orthopedist, but know something about a lot in Medicine.
    Anyhow, we need Pulisic very badly and I hope he makes a speedy recovery to be in top form when qualifiers roll around.
     
  18. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I did tear a hamstring once and fell like I'd been shot. but... I did it launching a goal kick... as keeper. damndest thing ever.
     
  19. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, he gets the no. 10 jersey at Chelsea and there's not a peep here?
     
  20. GoBigBlue88

    GoBigBlue88 Member+

    Feb 11, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I tore my (planted) calf punting as a keeper. Same sensation. Heard a pop and though it was my Achillese, but when I found I could put weight on it, knew it wasn't thankfully.

    Much to the point of recent posts here: it had felt tight in the moments leading up to the kick, but as a player I convinced myself it was just a little knock and I could shake it with a few steps. Nope.
     
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  21. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Because this is not his Chelsea thread.
     
  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's unfortunate for all those aspiring American players who have adopted number 22.
     
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  23. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a chelsea thread?!?!

    :)
     
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought I'd look up young MLS home- grown players wearing 22.

    Chicago - Mauricio Pineda
    Colorado - Sebastian Anderson
    Dallas - Ema Twumasi
    DC United - Griffin Yow
    Philadelphia - Brenden Aaronson
    Salt Lake - Aaron Herrera

    Cade Cowell at San Jose wears 44 as Tommy Thompson already wears 22.
     
  25. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, that's true, but it's still early. He's so quick that most can't touch him. This will play out over years.
     

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