Where is the Magic? Ajax 2020-21 Season

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  1. Hello, Feyenoordsoccerfan here ....
    beep..beep..beep...:D
     
  2. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    Frenkie 87M $USD.
    Mathijs 87M $USD.
    Dolberg 23M $USD.
    Ziyech 47M $USD.
    Van De Beek 53M $USD.
    Dest 24M $USD.

    $321 M for selling 6 players, not bad business. Can't win CL with this model but Van Der Sar is doing fine.
     
  3. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    Alvarez is a total embarrassment. Was awful today before the red. He was getting a second yellow if the red didn't come.

    ten Hag needs his head examined why he continues to play him over Martinez.
     
  4. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    the announcer was wrong. Schuurs got the yellow early on, not Alvarez.
     
  5. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    Ohhh-- yeah this guy doing the game on ESPN+ is rough.

    Either way, I'm guessing Martinez is hurt. Ekklenkamp on at half makes me think so. If not, ten Hag is insane for starting Alvarez over him.
     
  6. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Nice finish Antony. He's already paying dividends.

    2-1
     
  7. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    Kudus is incredible thus far too. His feints are Frenkie-like.
     
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  8. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #108 Orange14, Sep 26, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2020
    Second of the first three matches that Ajax have had to play with 10 men. Alvarez got a Red Card for a stomp with VAR asking van Boekel to take a look. This is always a Red in the Dutch league and Ajax benefited last season in the same way. Schuurs had to come off in the first half, he was moving his shoulder funny and let us hope it is not serious. Jurrien Timber was stalwart in defense. Antony with a great goal on a pass from Kudus for the game winner. Defending was top notch today.

    Player Ratings:

    Onana (7.5) had one really tough save to make and came out twice to cut down angles
    Tagliafico (7) - did enough at both ends of the pitch
    Blind (7.5) - two poor passes early in the game but so tough defending in the 2nd half
    Schuurs (5.5) - don't know what the complaint is as he had to come off midway in the first half
    Mazraoui (8) - convincing display with some great interventions to stop attacks and had he not been hurt last year nobody would know who Serginho Dest is
    Alvarez (4) - sent off for a stomp
    Kudus (8) - so good with the ball at his feet and knew exactly where Antony was on the game winner
    Promes (7.5) - well taken goal to open the Ajax account and almost had a second later in the match
    Tadic (7.5) - did what needed to be done
    Labyad (6) - no impact on the match and came off at the half
    Antony (8) - great match all around; looks like Ajax have a top flight player here
    Jurrien Timber (8) - other than de Ligt, I've not seen a 19 year old defender play so calmly; great defending
    Ekkelenkamp (7) - solid second half and he had some good dekes to get around Vitesse players; his hard cross/shot just hit the post otherwise he might have had the game winner
    Dest (5.5) - had one good run with the ball as he came on late for Mazraoui
    Traore (4.5) - committed a really stupid foul right at the end of added time that might have cost the match

    On the road to Groningen next Sunday and I think Arjen Robben is out injured which is a shame as I would like to see him play.
     
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  9. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    No Timber rating?
     
  10. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Does anyone know why Traore (our supposed future striker) and Neres are not starting??

    Because I dont have a lot of faith in Labyad
     
  11. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Hopefully we do not see Alvarez in midfield again for a while.
     
  12. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    Neres still getting fit. Once he is healthy, front 4 of him, Tadic, Promes and Antony is going to be scary.

    I don’t like Labyad much either. Team is way better with Tadic as a 9.

    Maz, Kudus, Antony were all incredible tonight. Timber was really solid too.
     
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  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I knew I had forgotten a player!! Corrected.
     
  14. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    He is flat out awful. I thought he was terrible in GC Final against the US as a DM right before Ajax signed him.
     
  15. Turns out his injury is worth 25 million, if Dest is sold.
     
  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I guess that means Mazraoui must be worth much more. Amazing turn of events.
     
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  18. Will be interesting to see if 23 first team matches is a sufficient preparation for a jump to a top league.
    I willnot use the word top club, as Barcelona in it's current state soccerwise isnot. The trashing by Bayern wasnot an accident.
    So Dest's move comes for him at a better moment than it would have been for a Barca from 2 years ago. Ample chance to fight himself into the starting eleven.
     
  19. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Sucks when you havent wont a title in hundreds of years, huh??!! :D
     
  20. @Orange14 I see you're engaging with what in the US-Mex rivalry thread are called the delusional NAD's by the Mex supporters.
    They really have no clue about top football, top national teams and top star players.
    They even donot get/are incapable to process what I've been posting about Dest.
    Their delusional minds see my posts as attacks on Dest and his choice, while my real targets are themselves while I expose their incredible ignorance about how selection processes work in top national teams.
    They even have the delusional impression I'm defending Ajax in the Dest case while I try to explain how things work, which has nothing to do with Ajax nor Dest, but everything with their ignorance about how processes work over here.
    It's quite funny how they get excited about a guy who has nothing to do with the USA at all, but act as if he's one of them. His father has nothing to do with the USA, apart from being a (Dutch)Surinam born man who was naturalized into a US citizen, and sent off as a military man to the Netherlands where he met his Dutch wife. So literally nothing ties Dest to the States but that flimsy piece of paper his father was given as an excuse to get military personel.
    And yet they get on their high horses about the first American transferred to a superclub.
    Their football legacy really is pathetic to be so estatic about an appropriated player. They have literally no experience with true superstars and once hyped ones that they take our from experience fed prudence with expectations about players yet to prove their qualities those calimero types talk trash about us being salty.
    Pathetic types. We have seen for every superstar we produced about ten that looked like the real deal, but turned into a dodo. Especially at Ajax there were talents that were deemed to go straight up but came crashing down.
    But if you come from a soccer culture with a league system geared to mediocraty instead of top quality, you obviously havenot got the reference framework we have that tells us to declare someone a superstar when he really is one.
    With Dest all odds are open. He can become a Gio van Bronckhorst quality player or the next van der Wiel/Ricardo van Rhijn. Nobody knows yet.
    But when you try to get that into their shrimp like brains you challenge their unicorn believes, so your salty.
     
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  21. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    what about Noa Lang. I really would like to see this guy get more game time but looks it would be better he goes out on loan again.
     
  22. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Lang will get opportunities once the fixtures start to pile up. ten Hag uses young players all the time even in Champions League matches as he did two seasons ago.
     
  23. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    What angers me is that I honestly wish the player well and then one guy comes after me with a lot of quotes from my match reports. We all know that Mazraoui would have kept Dest out of the lineup last season. Also if Schuurs had not had a bumpy start, he probably would have been the starter at CD with Veltman moving out to RB. Dest was really lucky that the stars were in his favor.

    He had a good season but is in no way a top flight RB right now. I'll leave it to the Americans to continue to shout his praises. For me, I'll wait to see his on field play.
     
  24. When the soap about his choice US vs Orange started some delusionals fed by an ignorant press started to claim he had been guaranteed a spot by Koeman, but chose for the USA despite that. When I explained that's not how it works with top nations the delusional ones came after me. I hated Dest, was a salty Dutch etc.
    About two years ago something like that happened when they were bigging up Palmer-Brown with Ajax and PSV going after him. I told them there wasnot anything from Ajax/PSV sources that supported that news. They also talked about how EPB got on their radar etc. I told them that isnot the MO of top clubs and certainly not the Dutch top clubs MO. I got alot of flak about that, including denying his greatness as shown on some youth wc, but in the end after the "dust" settled it turned out I was right all the time.

    The ignorant ones just don't learn, start conspiracy plots of Dutch against Dest after his choice, claiming Dutch are foaming on reddit and twitter about him (looked for those as I was interested who those idiots were but couldnot find them) etc. They just don't get it Dest is to us just one of the crowd, just like Mazra and Ziyech when they chose another path. To them it's a big deal he chose the USMNT, so they have to make it a big deal for us to feed their petty inferiority complex. And all that for a player who's as American as a Mongol riding the Siberian plains.
     
  25. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Mike Verweji reported that Ajax are looking to bring Davy Klaassen back and also bring in RB Sean Klaiber from FC Utrecht. Klaiber is fine as a back up RB but, why bring Klaassen back? Why is Ajax so obsessed with signing so many former players?
     

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