News: 2020 Season and Virus Talk

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  1. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    btw when he is talking to woodward and says it’s a “five” and not a “one” or a “fraction” — “deadly stuff” — he is quoting R-zeros back in February

    that means someone fed him professional grade Wuhan numbers, CIA CDC WHO, he consumed the seriousness, then instead used car salesman’d his market cheerleader re-election version “will disappear,” “Democrat hoax,” etc

    fwiw anyone with epidemiology 101 grasp would know a “five” isn’t going anywhere — 5 means 5 people infected by every previous infected person, which is headed towards exponential wildfire

    his chat with bob suggests he understood quite well what he was dealing with and deliberately sold a false picture to the country, which has then taken months to undo the harm of
     
  2. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #3028 juvechelsea, Sep 10, 2020
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    what you’re missing is that article is saying that they had so bad a backlog they are still adding cases that should have been included a long time ago:

    “deluge of sometimes incomplete data from state health officials dealing with a backlog of test results, Marlow said. While the county works on clearing the excess of old cases, it is trying to find a way to provide the public with a clearer picture of how many of the new cases are really new...”

    those are real cases

    it would add more cases now than are occurring in real time but would also mean they “were unknowingly understating the extent of the crisis in June and July, when hospitals were stretched to their limits“

    “Of the 514 “new” cases reported by Harris County on Tuesday, 123 dated to August and 145 were from July, the data showed. Another 99 were from June.“

    Doing the math, 367 stale cases but still 147 new ones

    They should go back and amend the old numbers IMO, they need to count the sick so the overall numbers add up to the correct total, but it’s probably more useful for the curves to be accurate on per day amounts

    If you’re implying fudging of current numbers, no, the implication is instead they “lost” cases at summer peak, which would as discussed above have understated how bad it got, incompetence, disorganization at the state level, or if anyone fudged it was state health at peak

    ——

    fwiw the epidemiologists using excess deaths or other such estimates would tell you we are significantly undercounting cases and deaths

    at peak Texas was 64% over the usual dead per week

    i get amused when herd immunity people want to fight the idea that more have been sick or killed than the numbers reflect — as your whole hope is the whole thing fizzles out for lack of new people to sicken, which would happen faster if the numbers understate (and fastest with a vaccine which is mathematically —at least to the level of efficacy — the equivalent of being sick)
     
  3. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    I know this breaks your heart, but it means current cases are likely down more than the figures say which means you are just being a wimp at this point
     
  4. juvechelsea

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    Feb 15, 2006
  5. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #3031 juvechelsea, Sep 10, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2020
    if you went to elementary school you can do the math and figure out 147 cases per day x 7 days = 1029 confirmed cases per week in the Houston area which is still basically an outbreak

    this is trump's america where worse jobs numbers than obama ever had are supposed to be time for celebration about him fixing the economy

    most industrial nations would be embarrassed by this for a national weekly number, and this is more in a week in a 4 million single metropolis than taiwan has for the whole pandemic with 25 million citizens

    and i was going to just sit on this card, but since you made it personal, i'll play my spade:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/workers-reveal-disney-is-covering-up-its-covid-cases?

    i'm leaving the bunker when we zero the cases or i have a vaccine. my activity is based on numbers and not playing along with politics. i was in here before they officially ordered stay at home locally. my work from here has been successful and my boss hasn't even brought it up. this thing punishes "brave" vs "coward" -- cain had some brave tv speeches before they shoveled dirt on his casket -- it rewards "smart" vs "stupid." this sort of considered decisionmaking on personal risks used to be called "personal responsibility" before the GOP lost their minds.

    and your number twisting basically consists of ignoring the 25% of dead below retirement age by treating pre-existing conditions like a death wish -- moral hazard or quasi nazi natural selection. you can't necessarily pick sickle cell, asthma, dementia, cancer, diabetes, pregnancy, immunocompromise.

    this is an extension of GOP welfare policies, which themselves have an undeclared racial tinge where the majority of food stamps people are white but we act like those on welfare are ne'erdowell blacks who deserve their plight. if the image of welfare was white that card wouldn't get played because white people are stereotypically presumed hard working -- we don't blame them for small town opioid crises, we come up with health and societal explanations ("my back hurts") and blame pharma.
     
  6. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    phase 2 next batch

    MN home
    CHI away
    NASH away

    Nashville does defend, so that will be tougher than it looks.
     
  7. zolafan

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  8. zolafan

    zolafan Member

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  9. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    i thought you were boycotting due to MLS taking unnecessary Risks during pandemic?
     
  10. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    Well @juvechelsea , you know it’s over when this Karen decides its OK to try and go to an outdoor Dynamo game

     
  11. 7seven7

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    agree. And chicago gave c-bus all they could handle today.
    I think ALL games are gonna be tougher than they look
     
  12. Westside Cosmo

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  13. CeltTexan

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  14. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    Dynamo being very fan-friendly - yeah, like I want to have Karens out there ensnare me in some bogus contact tracing

    For our fan reopening, tickets will be non-transferrable. This is done to ensure that each guest is able to fill out a health waiver and to ensure proper contact tracing after the event.
     
  15. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    Funny how it’s Ok for Karens to go to the events THEY like, but let’s ban everything for other gatherings

     
  16. AcetheTigah

    AcetheTigah Member+

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    Most people would actually refer to you as a 'Karen'.

    If you were a real Trumpster, you would use the Foxnews phrase 'Libtard'
     
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  17. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    I see no reason why anything is still closed if they want to keep mandating masks. Otherwise my assumption is that masks don’t really work. The local doomers are running out of any actual real news that seems bad so it’s all “third wave” and “long term effects” garbage
     
  18. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    They left out the part where all the voting machines will be programmed to register Democrat straight ticket votes, even if not allowed anymore

     
  19. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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    Christian Ramirez strikes me as the guy who believes that no one was ever dead in Weekend at Bernies

     
  20. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

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  21. CeltTexan

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  22. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    I thought on video he looked like Memo with wing foot speed. My question is whether he is really a "replacement" at the level of Elis. We're no Boca Juniors but it's probably a tougher league here than the Argentine second based on what I saw.

    To me it's the Elis type players that separate you from the pack in MLS. Just like if the Texans lose Nuk and Hyde the offense becomes very very soft, even if they sign a deeper bunch of "average" depth players than ever. So can he carry that much weight? The goals have to come from someplace and we still don't have a 10.
     

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