Man, you were taking quite the risk, going to a restaurant anywhere, let alone in a college town. If I lived in Tuscaloosa right now, I'd be ordering out and staying home, period, not even going for groceries and whatnot. It never completely goes away, just changes from feelings about us to feelings about stuff we do. I've had female students tell me I'm worthless at housekeeping (my desk was often cluttered). And my AUFC posters were moved around to where they thought looked the best. Nobody deserves to go thru that at a place where people have agreed to try to keep students safe. They could have started online from jump and stayed online. So could just about every school. There's no pressing reason for anyone to be in a physical classroom right about now.
Well we just had a staff member test positive and got the call to teach from home tomorrow and await further instructions, while they figure out whats up!!.
What's up is, the obsession with reopening everything is going to bite us in the exceptionalism. That's what's up.
And in not doing that, they spread 30 cases of covid that they know of. Possibly more. I don't get this helplessness that people are expressing. "Oh well, there was nothing else we could do." Yes, there was, and they didn't do it, and now there's more cases out there.
I second this. I'm assuming you are being hyperbolic with the bold, because, as you know as an educator, there are most definitely pressing reasons for some kids to be in a classroom. Or at least not at home.
I wasn't near anybody, and students weren't back. The restaurants were west of campus, and the dorms are on the east side. Even while students are there, one of the two restaurants was expensive where most students shouldn't be spending that much money on eating out, especially if they have a meal plan and can lose leftover money when a semester ends. Parts of the area didn't have power after a bad storm, so it was a bad time for students to be there. For reasons I won't say, I'm never going to have kids. I'm not affected much by if schools are open in person. Someone I watch videos from online has a giant dorm room, but I don't know why she went there when she lives close enough to commute. Another person I watch went to a dorm without any in person classes. I've seen people take precautions and people not take precautions. One religious family made a video title that they went to every ride at Disneyland. I've seen people who aren't religious and are in the Democratic area of SoCal not take precautions.
Somewhat. There are plenty of reasons for some kids to not be at home, but none that lessen the risk of contracting this virus or/and spreading it by being at school. And there are even fewer reasons for the employees of school systems to put themselves at risk. I mean, the average teacher is safer at home than s/he is at school right now. But that doesn't matter, because everybody else is trying to go back to work. This isn't about saving that kid who needs to be at school. It's about creating a way for the parents to get back to the salt mine. I have no problem staying late an hour or two because some kids need tutoring. It doesn't matter whether I get extra pay for that or not, I'd just do it. Nor would I mind staying an hour or so because some kid missed the bus or got on the wrong bus or whatever. But you're asking healthy me, who's done the right shit all the way thru this, to come into school with students whose families may have taken them anydamnwhere, to see and hug or be unmasked around anyone... because some kids don't need to be at home... naw, I didn't sign on for that. I bring that up because that's what teachers are being asked to do. Don't nobody gaf about teachers, 'nutter. Schools are open for education, and the educational system employs people who are trained to teach. They should not be open when being open creates an environment where more people are in potential danger than would be the case if they were at home. We may have reached the point where tax-funded public day care is a necessity, I don't know.
The British have decided to copy what the Americans are doing and hope a different outcome occurs. Wish us luck.
I think that's a good thing. People should experience life in a dorm when they go to school. I also think people should go to school away from home if possible, no matter where they live, so I'm maybe just weird.
And this is the problem with our education system. People don't send their kids to college (and take out tens of thousands in loans) to get a liberal education, or to learn how to problem solve, or to garner a level of expertise that allows them to thrive in an employment situation. They send their kids to school for "the college experience" which apparently means to party and go to sporting events and drink and hook up and stay in a dorm. Now, could you discuss philosophy and learn calculus and write software by watching videos online and doing projects that way? Probably. Would it be cheaper? Most likely. There are already master's programs out there that are entirely online, or some cases mostly online with a beginning and ending "cohort" of in person stuff. This virus should start people thinking about all the random buildings that the old local state u has been building and maintaining for the better part of two centuries. I think that's one reason everyone wants people to go back - so they don't start reconsidering the status quo. Now, I agree that I want my kid to move out when he is 18 and never move back home. I did that, and my family is caring and loving but I wanted to do my thing. But does it have to be a a dorm? He won't be college aged for 6 years, and I have no idea what sort of societal and technological changes are in store over that timeframe.
schrodinger's student. I mean, that is what it could be for some kids...and teachers getting caught in the crossfire. You know I'm with you, and I've done that, myself. I've thought this for a while. But then, those people are also being put at risk in the current situation. That said, what is the solution? I'm at a loss...
No disagreement, but for a huge number of students, they are not mature enough to handle going to college at 18. And on top of that, they are racking up debt, of which housing is the majority cost. Don't you also have an anchor baby? I would say that is Welsh, but there are too many vowels. There are a lot of students who don't learn well online and need to be in the classroom. I am one of them. I've had online/hybrid classes, and as much as I am able to be on the internets, having an online class is just an impossibility for me - and I have met many others who have said the same. While I don't disagree with this, sitting in your room, alone, and not in classroom is isolating.
So the contract tracers told me the positive teacher said she had been in my presence for more than 15 mins in a 24 hour period and possibly less than six feet at times since we park next to each other. I wasn't sure if i had spent 15 mins closer than six feet to her in the day all totaled but the tracer said do not come in for two weeks and you can get 14 days covid pay. I am waiting now to see if they will skip the leave and just let me work from home. My kids really do not need a sub for two weeks. Maybe they can get a "watcher" and I can still teach from home. the principal is supposed to call me later. I will post an update. I am fine, and have no intention of getting tested. I will just stay home and have my grandson fetch anything I need and drop it on the porch. I do intend to honor the quarantine since I might be asymptomatic. No telling how many of us that puts out for 2 weeks.
UPDATE: Well I am going to be working from home. They sent everybody home until 9/21 and we are going all virtual until then. That was only about half the kids since the other half were virtual. I set my kids up for this eventuality from day one since I only did instruction on the platform for everybody. The in person kids had the advantage of being able to get a question answered in real time or being shown how to navigate but it shouldn't be that big of a deal getting instruction to them. why?
Glad the school is doing the right thing for your colleagues and the students. Why not? I don't want this to sound critical, but wouldn't you want to know? You said earlier that you would quarantine for the two weeks, which is great, unless you got lazy and thought you'd pop out to the store to grab something real quick - I'm sure you wouldn't do that, but a lot of other people do, and some of them turn out to be asymptomatic and it helps to spread cases - why not just get tested so you know if you really need to quarantine or not?
I didn't take it as critical. Money? Why spend money or time on a test I don't need. I called the folks I saw this weekend and told them the school called and told me to quarantine because of possible exposure to covid. If I go anywhere it will be out on my boat by myself for the weekends. It is full of gas. Even if it is free, I just don't do doctors. I went to the doctor exactly two times in thirty years before I started having to get yearly wellness checks. Even if i have it, unless it gets real serious there isn't much they can do. So why bother? TBH I was surprised that I met the criteria for possible exposure. I am pretty respectful guy when it comes to other people, I am no threat to expose anybody, I will just act like I have it and am comfortable with the "rightness" of that decision for me. YMMV
It didn't even occur to me that the school district would suggest you get tested and then not pay for it. But I probably should have known better.
The reason to get tested is if this virus is more like shingles and less like influenza. A positive test lets you join a class-action later on if health problems compound.