It's Al Lang...For a While

Discussion in 'Tampa Bay Rowdies' started by kenntomasch, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm in Westshore and the trip there is a nothing burger for me. I also used to commute to St. Pete from Lutz and traffic is so much better on a Saturday evening that I wouldn't complain. Midweek games could be a pain though.
     
  2. Stephen York

    Stephen York Member

    Dec 9, 2015
    Tampa, FL.
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Usually it is pretty easy to get there from Citrus Park on the Hillsborough side where I live. However, if there is a popular Rays game going on the same night (like the Ottawa game) it can be pretty bad traffic getting in, but once you pass the Trop and leaving was not bad at all.
     
  3. Cleat-USA

    Cleat-USA Member

    Jul 16, 2012
    This is a baseball related narrative that really doesn't have a place for a discussion about Rowdies attendance. The merits of it even for weekday baseball are questionable. Driving into St Pete from neighboring counties on a Saturday is not a big deal at all.
     
  4. Stephen York

    Stephen York Member

    Dec 9, 2015
    Tampa, FL.
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    But it is relative, there is a documented issue for Bay area residents about the psychological barrier of the bridge and bay for sports and other activities on either side of the bay. It is less of an issue for soccer as the fan base seems to be more active and there are less games than baseball (especially weekday games), but to ignore it completely would be folly. Soccer (and the Rowdies) at the MLS level in the Tampa Bay area would also benefit from having a local fan base that is not attached to their pre-Tampa immigrant city teams (NY, NJ, PH, etc.), such as the problem with NFL, MLB, and to a lesser degree NHL.
     
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  5. Cleat-USA

    Cleat-USA Member

    Jul 16, 2012
    There's a documented issue for people going to weeknight baseball games. It's also misguided but that debate has no place here. You cannot compare 81 baseball games to 17 soccer games. You cannot compare a 7 game homestand in baseball to a one game (sometimes two) games per week MLS slate with most games happening on the weekend. This really isn't even a conversation worth having. Al Lang is the site It's a beautiful site. It is free. Millions of trips are made across that bridge a year by people looking to go to a Pinellas County beach on the weekend. There's no psychological barrier there.
     
  6. Stephen York

    Stephen York Member

    Dec 9, 2015
    Tampa, FL.
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    The psychological barrier will be there if we are talking about one game or one thousand games. A barrier becomes one that people are more likely to put up with when the resource (games) is scarcer. So yes, I agree, the barrier is more or less a non-issue for the Rowdies and MLS, but the barrier remains.
     
  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, that settles that, then.
     
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I used to live up by Lutz!
     
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  9. G Enriquez

    G Enriquez Member+

    Apr 1, 2002
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. BlackandRedForever

    DC united
    Scotland
    Jul 4, 2021
    It's obvious that the Rowdies days are numbered at AL Lang. Where do they go when the city decides to cash in on the waterfront site?
     
  13. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure it's obvious they're leaving, but hopefully Raymond James for me, lol. I would go to a LOT more Rowdies games if they were on this side of the bay, though it would be a damn shame to lose that beautiful soccer specific stadium.
     
  14. BlackandRedForever

    DC united
    Scotland
    Jul 4, 2021
    I will draw you a picture. Rays own the Rowdies. St Pete and the Rays look like they won't come to an agreement to keep baseball in the Burg.

    The Rays are much more likely to bolt to another city than across the bay. The city government doesn't want minor league soccer occupying the waterfront.

    The Rowdies signed a one year extension because the breaking point is coming soon between the Rays and St Pete. The Rays will either fold the Rowdies when they leave or sell them if an owner can be found. Either way a new home will be needed.

    Ray Jay is way too big and expensive. There aren't many other alternatives.
     
  15. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen nothing that indicates St. Pete is unhappy with having the Rowdies on the waterfront. The Rays situation is a big question mark, though. If they sell, I wonder if the Glazers would be interested this time after watching all the other NFL owners snatch up a piece of the domestic soccer market with MLS clubs. That would make RayJay viable again. Or maybe Jeff Vinik steps in.
     
  16. BlackandRedForever

    DC united
    Scotland
    Jul 4, 2021
    Members of the city council have openly coveted the Al Lang site for redevelopment. And none of those plans include a soccer stadium
     
  17. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    The days continue to be numbered.
     
  18. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But they are a little longer this time, at least.
     
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  19. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Talking to some Rowdies fans and apparently it's part of St. Pete law that public land/property like that can only be leased at a maximum of 5 years at a time, and each renegotiation is simply figuring out the money + how long the city is go on that new lease.
     
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  20. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3 years seems pretty good to me. Lower division soccer is inherently less stable than D1. For every Charleston Battery there are 10 Austin Aztex. Love the Rowdies and will enjoy them as long as the Rays keep them around.
     
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  21. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since the bid is supported by the Rays I assume it would have to be Al Lang. There's no other soccer specific facility with its capacity. USF has Corbett Soccer Stadium but it's hardly fit for a professional team and only has a listed capacity of 3000.
     
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  23. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I interpret Sternberg's interest in investing in a NWSL team as a positive for the Rowdies. If he were wanting to wrap things up, I wouldn't see him spending money on another soccer money trap. If Tampa is awarded a women's team, I hope they use the same yellow/green color scheme. I find that helpful to link the teams and brand soccer in the region.
     
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