Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

A goal is a goal regardless and it’s not like they were outplayed. So if they would have advanced on penalties they would be more deserving.

you seem to have a dislike for Leipzig I guess I don’t understand

 

I don't really support ugly wins, that's all. Who said it would go to PK if there is 30 min of ET.

its the most hated club in Germany don't pretend like I'm the only one who hate their guts. Why would I support or like such a farce of a club?

I mean people can like or dislike whatever they want. And I really don't care about this Austrian club based in Germany, them playing in Europe is not good enough reason for me to give one shit.

 

I get why many don't like Leipzig and I would prefer to see the traditionsvereine doing better however the fact is most of them are run like shit by incompetent boards with a losers mentality. The main exceptions at this point are Bayern (obviously), Dortmund and also Gladbach. It is up to the rest to step their game up. The more BL clubs capable of making deep runs in the CL the better. At least RBL have an ambitious 'can do' attitude which is not a bad quality to have.

I do agree RB are a plastic/franchise club however I think to say they are an Austrian club isn't fair as the clubs presence in the city of Leipzig is a benefit to the local community. People shouldn't ignore the upsides to this imo.

If you are a kid in the city you now have a big club with great facilities competing against Europe's elite on your doorstep, before it was only RL clubs maybe 3. Liga at best all with run down facilities. The club also runs community projects etc. How likely was it without major investment to see a club from the East of the country grow to such an extent and even make the last 4 in the CL?

I think the clubs success will inspire many local kids, so I hope the club starts developing and playing more local talent in the future. It would be nice to think that having a successful club from the East will mean more players from the east playing in the NT in the future.

I would definitely prefer to see tradionsvereine achieving more and being successful, there is no reason why more can't follow Dortmund's lead and build themselves into clubs capable of competing with Europe's elite, (Gladbach are on the right path) however in their absence at least seeing a BL club, plastic as they may be, in the latter stages of the CL is better then nothing.

 

If RB didn't deserve to win cause of deflected goal what does it tell for ATM which register zero good shot on goal on 2nd half apart from Joao Felix PK.

 

so now... all deflected goals don’t count? Lol

shit u are not well

 

all it says is that Leipzig has a good defensive that's it.
so much overreaction because I don't like a club, so what. Sometimes wonder why these boards seem into the the herd mentality. You have a poster here who openly post how much he hates Bayern and I've never seen anyone say anything, not even myself. But Leipzig a bit too much defensive.

or the other side the more success they get the more they'll draw foreign players and the more they'll buy too.

and can that asswipe KHR STFU already, no one asked shit, he can shove every opinion of his up his dumb ass. Where did I say deflected shots goals don't count. This guy is pro at making up shit from his clownish useless ass. This guy likes to involve himself in everything and 100% obsessed with me while 100% making up shit.

 

these are still the German National Team boards anyways not the German club boards, interest in Europe should still be aligned with German players. I mean that's ONLY reason why people are here. A team with barely any Germans going far doesn't really give a big boost to NT.

Leipzig all you got is aging Halstenberg and Klostermann and that's it. Next season Henrichs will be there on loan, essentially nothing but fullbacks. Whether Borkowski, Hartmann, and Wosz get real integration or not time will tell. Then guys like Krauss/Jakel (Talabidi likely headed to loan or out) won't come back until 2022. Even local kids.......Leipzig is same club that has like many foreign players in U19 too, they have 7 foreign kids in U19 bunch more in U17 and getting more too. So they aren't focused on Germans even in lower levels. And at this point with how little Germans there are in 1st team they'll end up giving out like 8+ pro contracts to Germans youngsters. That's one main reason they keep Kampl and Orban around too, 2 German duals who don't play for Germany but count in 12.

I'm more interested in German perspective than how far this plastic club goes in Europe.

 

think about this for one second.
PSG #of Germans, 2 in Draxler and Kehrer
Citeh #of Germans 2 in Gundo and Sane (last season)

Leipzig for Germany is only Klostermann and Halstenberg. Not going to count GK #3 or U19 players there to fill in squad and who they constantly block by loaning in players from other leagues but point is Leipzig uses as many Germans as foreign top clubs WHILE being in Germany.........even if you add Werner not much difference between 2 or 3.

 

anyways I'll stop this debate about Leipzig, people can like and root for whatever they like. If someone wants them to win CL than that's fine.

not going to spend more time and energy discussing this club that doesn't merit me spending much time on them. Nor am I interested in Leipzig besides their few German players anyways. Even if they had a lot more Germans would be rooting for the German players never the club.

And nothing's going to change that either, it's why all these discussions about why someone dislikes a club or not are pointless. Them being German clubs doesn't mean a German NT fan has to root for them even if they play Europe. I support/like clubs like Freiburg, Mainz, Koln, FCN, Gladbach etc too. I don't have to force another club that doesn't interest me.

it's also a known fact that I loathe modern day Stuttgart too and that's a club that I liked watching in past too. I hope they get their shit together one day until then.....

it's up to each individual to like or dislike whatever they want. The ONLY common link on these boards is that everyone in here is a Germany NT fan and that's it.

 

WUT?

 

your free to betray the Dutch and join us.
One of us, one of us, one of us....




I mean to be fair your more of a guest poster. I enjoy reading your posts and updates and are welcome to continue posting but that was aimed at German fans.

 

Pfew, ... already have a hard time with my three beautiful, clever and very nice German little nieces being für Die Mannschaft ...

 

my friend if that's not a sign I don't know what is.

 

according to reports, Real Madrid are sending Reiner on loan to Dortmund. Seems like them playing CL is one of the reason they want him to go there.

and all but likely no buying clause.

 

But Real and the player agree that he should be loaned out as soon as possible in order to gain important game practice at this age. The offers are increasing, from La Liga, Real Valladolid and Real Sociedad are said to be interested in the midfielder.
According to "Marca", the player should prefer to stay in Spain. He has already got used to the country and the style of play, and a longer stay on the Iberian Peninsula could also accommodate a possible naturalization.
At Real, however, the "Bundesliga model" has also proven itself in the past: Dani Carvajal (who gained important experience in Leverkusen) and Achraf Hakimi (who spent two years at BVB) are excellent examples. And Reinier is also a player who is met with great interest in Dortmund.
There is talk of an advanced deal in Brazil and Spain. According to kicker information, no official negotiations have taken place. Reinier, based in attacking midfield, would round off the squad well. In the end, a loan model like the one with Hakimi would be conceivable, so that Reinier might even play in Westphalia for two years.
https://www.kicker.de/781927/artikel/bvb_hat_grosses_interesse_an_reals_top_talent_reinier#twfeed

LOL listing a few players who succeeded in Germany and not listing the failures Real loaned out to 1BL including a certain Bayern RB.....

outside of CL, it makes more sense to get La Liga experience since that's where he'll be playing in future and that's where he seems to prefer according to reports. But 2 year loan with Dortmund is also possible.

 

The hell Alaba...

 

he really wants to leave Bayern.

still think it's dumb shit that Low axed Muller and Boa. Find better attacker and CB.......and Reus seems out for who knows how long......

 

LMAO.

Bayern's bosses ripping up that new Alaba contract as we speak...#FCBFCB #BAYBAR #UCL

— Ronan Murphy (@swearimnotpaul) August 14, 2020

 

Perisic! And beautiful played by Gnabry prior to the goal!

 

Ter Stegen clearance and goal kick has been horrendous so far. I counted 3 intercepted by Bayern players and it's not even 30 minutes yet

 

Beautiful intelligent volley pass by Leon, and Gnabry as usual very clinical!!

 

Barca defence looks very nervous.

 

Perisic is showing himself to be a ton more useful than that Frenchie bum Coman.

 

What a game with both teams having blatant weaknesses in their defenses
But Bayern’s taken their chances whereas Barcelona should’ve had at least one given the run of the game
But Bayern far superior