Alex Mendez @ FC Vizela

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by TheFalseNine, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    The "Jong Ajax" roster is not really Jong Ajax.

    I presented: 1 He was the oldest player who played for them yesterday. 2. He is older than 9 guys who played for the first team today. That's fair from "average" age.
     
  2. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How can we reason with you when you won’t even read the things you are linking? It says:

    Non EU/EEA players need a work permit in order to play professional football in the Netherlands.

    The basic principle is that a work permit is only issued if is non-EU/EEA player who is:

    • 18 or 19 years old signs a contract with a basic salary of € 197.308,- gross per year;
    • 20 years or older signs a contract with a basic salary of € 394.616,-gross per year.
    Alex Mendez is a 19 year old on a three year (no +1) contract. He has a work permit, which we know because he plays professional football in the second division, as is clearly stated in your link.

    Ergo Alex Mendez must be making the EU Minimum (a ******** ton of $), which in turn makes most of yours and the other Skeptic arguments about him being useless filler and having made a bad career decision suspect if not void.

    How about y’all go back to the drawing board and come up with something else?
     
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  3. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The roster isn’t the roster?
     
  4. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    I mean their roster is fluid/different depending on where you look. If you play 1 match at Jong Ajax then 28 for first team Ajax, are you a Jong Ajax player? It's not a regular club roster.

    You keep ignoring my point about he was the oldest guy to start yesterday + 9 younger guys played for Ajax today. It's OK-- you have absolutely no point on him being "average" for the level and keep changing the goal posts.
     
  5. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    You are ignoring that it was a preseason match and some guys who are currently with the first team, but will be with among Ajax once the season starts. As you said, it is fluid.
     
  6. Uhm, the KNVB has rules about who can play in the Young teams in our second tier. This came after complaints from the real teams in that league the competition was becoming unfair because of the way Ajax composed Young Ajax teams in matches. One match they played about half of the first team selection, the next only 17 yo. So depending on who Ajax put on the pitch your club had an easy win or an uphill struggle.
    So the roster isnot that fluid.
     
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  7. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
  8. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Exclamation point!
     
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  9. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    wheels within wheels who can even say what is happening in this developing situation!
     
  10. BGSUSoccerFan423

    Jul 2, 2011
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    What? I get that pressing and counter attacking is the rave these days but technical ability still trumps athleticism any day of the week. It still very much matters.

    You're right because that's why he's about to go to a club that only finished two points ahead of his current team and were in the relegation zone for most of the season.

    I don't see any evidence either that they paid a fee but I really doubt that Freiburg would just let one of their prospects go for nothing especially if he was under contract.

    I'll agree he was very inconsistent for Jong when he did play in the middle. As I said before because of his main weakenesses, he's probably going to take longer to develop because if you have looked at all of his matches at the youth level or in the USL, he wasn't asked to do those things. So now he either has to add those things to his game or he's going to find himself back stateside after awhile.
     
  11. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
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  12. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    Never said technical ability doesn't matter. Just saying you need SOME athletic ability/fitness to play in the modern game. Used McKennie vs. Mendez as an example because they're total opposites. McKennie's technically is not good but a great athlete/work rate.

    I'm not as high as others on Weston as others. He's probably going to move for $25-30m and not to Hertha. I would say that's not bad and far better than someone who struggles to get onto the field in the Dutch 2nd Division.

    Sources were saying he was getting 1k/month from Freiberg. They paid nothing for him. Evidence points towards it was just a short stop for Mendez before a bigger club came calling.
     
  13. Just an example of a player overlooked by most in the second team of Sochaux.
    Look at his stas in the CL.
     
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  14. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    so wait are we comparing mendez to perisic
     
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  15. BGSUSoccerFan423

    Jul 2, 2011
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I think the point is that it's too early to write off anybody. Let alone a kid that is 19.
     
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  16. HS Teacher

    HS Teacher Member

    Jan 3, 2018
    Spain
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  17. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Peak Big Soccer.
    Neat week he'll be Freddy Adu.
     
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  18. wynaldaisagod

    wynaldaisagod Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Aug 9, 2019
    Yeah he’s with them because all the Jong Ajax players are at YCL/with first team so for the time being Jong Ajax doesn’t really exist.
     
  19. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
    He’s not a top prospect. He should ask for loan to a bottom eredivisie team. He won’t ever be good enough to make it at Ajax.
     
  20. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    So I guess we're done here. Fellas, that's a wrap ...
     
  21. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Past is precedent we will have another 20 years of this, ending with Las Vegas Knights updates.

     
  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
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  23. gnk

    gnk Member+

    Nov 1, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
  24. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    It was a full 23 player roster. They made some subs at the half and big change in the last 30 mins. I would have liked to see him get some minutes but not that surprising. It is still a good opportunity to make the bench.
     
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  25. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Didn’t read the rest of the thread eh? He’s not good enough - I am making a joke for those with issues in this area.

    encouraging he’s even on the bench to me. While he prob won’t make it at Ajax it hopefully means that they do recognize he in a true prospect
     
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