And it is being upgraded. I got some basics here which I learned (both original and upgrade): Pretty amazing stuff. My immediate thought to the original building of it was in comparison with the Chunnel, but sans all the nifty technology. Quite an amazing project. Not the only amazing project out there of some comparison. Off the top of my head is the Hoover Dam and the Panama Canal, but I'm sure there are many, many more around the world.
Just to remind what it means to develop a vaccin here's the story of the socalled fastest development in history, the mumps vaccine, which in retrospect wasnot fast at all. https://www.history.com/news/mumps-vaccine-world-war-ii
When we people choose to put our shoulders under a project as a unity, we can create great things. If we choose to get divided and get into antagonism while unity is what's being called for, we create disasters.
It was pointed out quite early in the discussion of this vaccine that the starting point was not in February of 2020, but closer to the SARS outbreak starting in 2002. In fact, Moderna used as their current starting point the research done on a vaccine for the SARS virus, which might have occurred if not for funding drying up. So while this is a "novel" coronavirus, it is still a coronavirus. Beyond that, there are something like 10 or 12 organizations working on a vaccine, all which will have many people involved. The technology and talent currently available and focused on a single project is pretty phenomenal, and not really comparable to any other point in time.
Trump could always give them a shot of hydroxychloroquine with regular gargling of bleach. Lotsa people are doing that.
Vaccine development in the last few decades has fallen behind the curve of technology on a wider scale, simply because of funding and political will. I'm not saying thats right or wrong, as we only have limited resources to spread around. I mean, whats more important, cancer research or vaccine tech research? Whats been a more pressing and urgent concern the past decade. Death by cancer or death by virus? What about other disease like Alzheimers? I think this pandemic has changed a lot of that now. I also think comparing vaccine development of the past with today, does not really tell the full story.
No doubt about it. I myself posted a few pages back the call to arms from the Dutch virologist around 2008? iirc. It still is a daring claim it will be fast tracked that much. We only can hope it materializes.
Yes, 100% this. The vaccine research heads at NIH have said exactly this. They have been closely studying very similar coronaviruses for years. The only reason the brakes got applied to the SARS vaccine was the realization it wasn't a pressing concern. The stages of transmission and overall fatality assured that viruses own demise at the time.
or this on a daily basis: An angry mob in Spokane, WA surrounds a black father & his 2 kids to wrongfully accuse him of stealing pic.twitter.com/ZAyXFsso5Q— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) August 9, 2020
So you disparage a man over a quibble? Who do you think EMA talks to? Who do you think Gates talks to?
Because he doesn't just give. This isn't about buying a stock and just hoping it goes up and not caring about what it is, or throwing money at a charity and calling it a day. He's directly concerned with the effect his money is having.
Actually I was talking about my country although the same things apply. Our Government advised people to return as they knew things may be harder and more expensive down the track, and it turns out they were right. We assisted people to get home for the first couple of months, and those who stayed away for whatever reason (work, family, foreign residency etc) now have to deal with the situation that confronts them. It costs about double or more to get a plane ticket, you may have to buy a higher class of ticket to guarantee a seat, and you will pay between $2000 (single to $4000 (family) for hotel quarantine when you get back. They still have the option of waiting it out where they are if they can.
I can't tell if you're serious or not. $6 bn is invested in vaccines; he has given $45.5 bn to this and other health and education and development-related projects. If you visit the Foundation itself, you can see one of the things they're aiming for: effective, waterless, odorless toilets for poor communities around the world. And if you look at the state of shit around the world, you'll know disposal of it is one of the most serious issues facing the world.
I'm still going to make fun of Windows, though. Just not on any machine that uses it, because I think that makes it run even slower...