Transfer Rumors Abroad

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Froboy69, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    if what he cares about is money then he can just stay at Zenit.
     
  2. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Arsenal have had problems being too cheap over the last 10 years and still are, but they improved a ton under Arteta and have a very interesting project. Arteta looks like he is a really good manager and worked a lot under Pep who I consider arguably the best overall manager in the world. They have pedigree and they have some good young talent but have been plagued by atrocious defense, it would be a good place to land for a guy like Barrios for sure and especially because Arteta wants to play a similar 4-3-3 that Man City play and in that system his role is hugely important and Arteta himself played that position later in his career. Arsenal are still behind City, Liverpool, Chelsea and then there's Spurs, United and Arsenal who are inconsistent right now but it looks like Arsenal are a good project right now and the most important issue is they have a good young manager who will has already improved the team and players a lot in a short period of time.
     
  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Arsenal made really big investments in aubemauyang, mikitarian, xhaka, torreira, lacazette, pepe....all high fees.

    They didnt worked....but that miyth that they werr cheap died before wenger was gone.
     
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  4. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    This will be same profile team as mallorca and huesca.....


    Is interesting how luis suarez that never have played in first division have pretenders with higher profile that cucho
     
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  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I like the way Granada was playing by the end of the season. Their Venezuelan player was pretty good and would complement Cucho if he is still on the roster come next season.


    As for Suarez he to me is more of a pure #9 which is of more value to get one who is prolific, He is also "Spanish" now and has been allegedly scouted by the Spain Sub23 so that also adds value.

    But all-in-all he is a better player right now too so better teams wanting him is logical.
     
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  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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  8. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He will still make more money at Arsenal and of course for 99.9% it’s about money.
     
  9. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Sure, but their style looks different on the field and they showed more metal winning this one.

    I like the direction they are headed.
     
  10. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    This.
     
  11. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    For being around one of the 5 richest clubs in Europe you can say they are cheap, but its all relative. They have spent for sure, but since the times of the new stadium and when fee's exploded they retracted and have spent recently but still based on their revenues and the fact they've gotten 0 investment from their owner they are relatively cheap. They have not been smart and effective in the transfer market like they were back in the day, they overpaid for Pepe the rest were good deals for the market I'd say but they won't spend like Man United, Chelsea or anywhere near City.
     
  12. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Think that's about right. Also think it's a journey from their former buy super young and cultivate strategy.

    As a BvB fan I was bummed by how poorly Auba adapted to the prem given his pace but he was fantastic this season and I agree with the comment above in Arteta.
     
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  13. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    They have changed strategy like 9 years ago......with oziil, sanchez, cech (free agent), xhaka, lacazette, mustafi....all high salaries and fees higher than 40....that idea of arsenal as super academy with beatiful football have gone.....is just romatincism...

    sometimes people dont realize that the "idea" or "plattitude" of the club or a national team is no more for a long time but the idea is there despite the factical evidence.....even with wenger they abandoned this strategy and also struggled....

    in this mopment the failure of arsenal...is that they dont have an identity, poor scouting too...it seems they change plan each season.....
     
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  14. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    arsenal has won the FA Cup recently in 2014, 2015 and 2017 as well and us fans always convince ourselves that winning the FA Cup is going to be the momentum changer for us going into the next season. Sadly, it hasn’t happened yet - I would love to be proven wrong next season.

    If we can get players like Barrios and/or James - both would get substantial playing time and the upside to help the team improve would put them on a high pedestal.
     
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  15. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I guess. Or you could say the club has won multiple FA cups over past ten years despite being in a period of instability trying to figure out a model to complete as their old in-house system went out of fashion and that they clearly had a hard time moving on without ripping off the band-aid entirely while Wenger was there. Look how far they've come from the side Hornby wrote about in Fever Pitch...

    Confused by why it matters if their youth system program died out five or ten years ago...they are still a massive club, with a great history and great destination as long as the system is a fit for the player.

    I worry for James because I don't see them playing a 10 in games much and the British have an obsession with pace...on the other hand, Highbury has been needing some bottle in midfield forever and I think Barrios would fit great there.

    But again, as long as James is playing, I'll be happy even if it is at a "library."
     
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  16. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #4991 ryu79, Aug 10, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2020
    Yeah, that's the journey. It happens all the time after a long standing leader either walks away (or in their case, when you wait too long to move on from a leader past his best).

    They, like United, are blessed though. They have resources, a huge fandom, a wonderful city thats attractive to players and a brand equity (however faded by the past decade). I hope Arteta can do what Jurgen has at Pool and give the Qataries some real competition - that league would be the better for it.
     
  17. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Matters because show the inestabilty of that club all these years, at least befoire they failed with an idea of good football and developing playters....... now since 9 years ago, there is just a team with no plan, with big investment and bad scouting, the only excuse of their bad performances have been their bad management.....i dont remember the last "crack of the world" of arsenal...maybe alexis


    despite all this "bitching" that im having of arsenal.......i think isnt a bad idea for barrios (improved or league and team)...but i disagree that i have seen evidence or a hint of a positive change for arsenal....
     
  18. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cool. Then we agree on the matter of pertinence to this thread. We can catch up on what/if Arteta gets anything out of them when there is enough of a record to make that assessment.
     
  19. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    I think if anyone can get the best out of a guy like James who is a ten playing him deeper its someone from the school of Pep who utilized those type of guys in a 4-3-3. Once Arteta gets better CB's (already have one in Saliba and are targeting Gabriel) I think you see them go back to a 4-3-3 and he needs another quality player to operate there, Ceballos is very good and plays a bit deeper, James and Barrios would be nice additions. They have been a mess and the biggest issue was probably Emery, he was terrible but Arsenal does still give young players chances and in that area they are likely to develop young players and attract more then some other prominent clubs. Saka is very good, Martinelli is a huge talent, Saliba is a big talent at his age Tierney looks really good, Ceballos is really good and Arteta looks like he's going to be a fantastic manager and the players are really bought in under him. Doesn't mean its guaranteed success, but they are back on track somewhat and honestly for James it's about the safest level of club for his career at this point.
     
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  20. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Honestly i would rather see him in Serie A or the Primer League rather than Ligue 1.

    Of course call me biased since I like either team for James.
     
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  21. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  22. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  23. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


     
  24. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Haha the DIM guy was sometimes mentioned as a nt player....... MExico isn’t looking bad now that they are saying Dallas huh :)
     
  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He will be 29 in october..

    If he sound for the nt, it was just a local press fantasy trying to recomend players
     

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