The All-Encompassing Pro/Rel Thread on Soccer in the USA

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by bigredfutbol, Mar 12, 2016.

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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    On the contrary! Two options of trains from Worcester to Brum (the local to the Jewellery Quarter or the express to New St.) from two equidistant stations 1 mile from our house. It's an especially easy commute, just really long. I kind of miss being able to have 2 hours to read every day.

    All I can figure is that the gran of somebody important from London Midland lived in Worcester city centre, because we had 2 trains to Birmingham per hour and never had delays or cancellations from snow or "leaf fall".
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting video. Not sure how accurate it is, but still interesting:

     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I commuted from Lincolnshire to the City of London for 5 horrible years. I think my first season ticket cost £1,500 and the last one £3,000. Today they're over £7k.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Now that's a tough commute!
     
  5. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Lucky you... The Jewellery Quarter didn't even have a station until the mid '90's, although I guess you could have walked from Snow Hill. That was the time the West Midlands finally seemed to get its act together on commuter rail services.

    My commute was wholly within Birmingham - two buses - and took longer than yours!
     
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  6. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
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  8. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Maybe. There have been attempts before in lower leagues and they haven't been successful.
     
  9. It's the difference between one company with subsidiairies spread around that have to comply to the companies rules and a cooperation of independent companies that have freedom of contract. It would be illegal in Europe to have a salary cap as it infringes the right of freedom of contract.
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really, as its in the lower divisions, and the loss of revenue at stake is nothing like you'd see between the top two divisions.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    If that’s true, though, it should manifest itself between the Championship and League 1.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Or, to clarify this, you should still be able to see the effects, but with lower risk.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    You’re going to have to clarify this, because I am not sure how a salary cap affects that and considering France’s rugby league has one...
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    That said...

     
  15. You can do it, until someone challenge it and goes to court. In that case you lose the salary cap.
    A salary cap infringes the freedom of both the player and the club to negotiate the pay they want.
     
  16. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    England's Gallagher Premiership also has a Salary Cap. I believe the Super League does as well.
     
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  17. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    That sounds like a "process" argument as opposed to a "salary caps are illegal" argument.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Possibly. It's also from the player's union, so not exactly an objective, neutral analysis of the situation.
     
  19. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    American players unions would do a lockout. Soccer unions aren't as strong.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Read the replies.
     
  21. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don't think the USL is at a level where pro/rel can occur.
     
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  22. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I certain you're right.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think MLS will expand to 36 or even 40 teams and we'll end up like Mexico with only two or three teams outside the top division capable of competing in the top- flight.

    If MLS stops at 30 or 32 though you may get quite a competitive league outside of MLS.

    But then if you implement pro/rel you have to deal with things like unraveling a team's single-entity shareholding and territorial rights. It's a long way off.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    With MLS? Or internally?
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He means with MLS.
     
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