Changing Landscapes - Chicagoland

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by VolklP19, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    #4301 VolklP19, Aug 5, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2020
    More on that ^

    Apparently the Sockers NW outpost was no longer a desirable operation for Palatine to kepp on.

    Like Paul Micelis Alliance, all the teams/boys have a deal with Inferno to come over. So after the dust has settled, DR failed to "settle" the area - as he stated years ago. Instead Inferno cleans house. Should be interesting how that club turns out over the next year or so.

    Inferno absorbs 2 clubs - becomes the primary club at the newly remodeled MAC and pick up some decent coaches along the way.
     
  2. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have three really goid kids from CL that come to schaumburg.
    Wondering what they were telling parents out there....
    Was it total B team out there?
    Wondering if they were telling who can/can't train in schaumburg...
     
  3. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    From what I undertand NW was not really given any options from Palatine. Some of the coaches tried to work it out but Ewerton A (runs Inferno) was more then happy to help out and work a deal. Those boys stay close to home now and get on some decent teams.

    There were already some Sockers NW players moving to Inferno over the course of the last few years so I imagine it was not a hard choice. I have said it many times - there are a ton of parents out this way who think their kid is great and committed but they would never make the drive to Olympic for a much more competitive pool.
     
  4. Hitcat

    Hitcat Member

    Chicago Fire
    Germany
    Feb 7, 2020
    Oh joy, we gotta buy our own pennies. You couldn't split blue and white jerseys. Stuuuuuuuuuupid.
     
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  5. girlssoccernewbie12

    girlssoccernewbie12 New Member

    Portland
    United States
    Apr 11, 2019
    That's RIDICULOUS! Our club has the kids wear their game uniform and bring their "white/home" jersey and they switch in and out of it on the field for scrimmages. Simple, inexpensive, and since they haven't been playing any games, they get some use out of them before they grow out of them.
     
  6. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Have we got confirmation anywhere that h/s girls MRL will be moved to Spring - at least in Illinois?
     
  7. BiggJ

    BiggJ New Member

    Jan 7, 2020
    Illinois
    #4307 BiggJ, Aug 6, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2020
    I completely understand the concern and risks around participating in soccer during this pandemic, but can someone explain to me the difference between allowing intra club games ("scrimmages") being allowed by our Gov. and inter club games not allowed? It seems to me that games vs in-state clubs should then be allowed following the same protocols.
     
  8. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    The goal is to limit the amount of contacts so they want you to only scrimmage with the group you practice with. Clubs will be creating pods of 50 players for training and then those teams will scrimmage at the weekend. I am sure some clubs will follow it closely and others with stretch the boundaries. Some of the park districts they use will enforce the guidelines strictly and others will not be monitoring.
     
  9. SoccerPop314

    SoccerPop314 Member

    Fire
    United States
    Apr 24, 2020
    Yep, I heard that some clubs are just going to have teams playing each other over multiple age groups and boys/girls, and some are creating very specific pods of 50 and won't let players practice / play outside of those pods. I would be nice if everyone followed the same rules but it never works that way. Hoping the state looks at the data closely and if no transmissions were found from games and tournaments in the summer, from 3v3 events, and from these pods scrimmages, they will roll back the restrictions and allow the kids to have some normality back.
     
  10. illinisoccer

    illinisoccer Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    No a lot of faith in the state. They overreacted when there were a few outbreaks at high school camps. They assumed the outbreaks were sports related but it has come out that almost all were actually from July 4 parties.
     
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  11. BiggJ

    BiggJ New Member

    Jan 7, 2020
    Illinois
    I understand the pod concept, but the players in each pod are not kept in a bubble like the pros. They're still interacting with other people outside the club. So every club's pod is still exposed to the same risk. Are we pretending that "Only my club is following the rules so we're safe and the other Illinois clubs aren't"? I don't know, just seems kind of silly when you think about it. If we're willing to take the risk and let the kids play at all and local clubs follow the protocols then it shouldn't be that much of a stretch to setup local games allowing Illinois clubs to play each other for things like MRL or state cup. It would at least be somewhat productive under the circumstances while other states get their s**t together for showcases and Nationals. Those club based scrimmages are gonna get old quick between now and the end of the year.
     
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  12. Ryan7852

    Ryan7852 Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Mar 24, 2019
    respectfully disagree (depends a lot with what club you’re kid is at).

    My hope is that clubs realize what I think is an enormous opportunity. Create free play/pick up sessions woven in with the serious hardcore training. This is, by far and without question, the biggest element our kids miss out on in the US. Set aside time for them just to play, try new things and this doesn’t mean it doesn’t have to be competitive or serious. The best free play is competitive but it’s also playful and encourages risk taking, flair. do 3v3 4v4 sessions within the pod. Could be awesome. Hoping for the best but not holding my breath.
     
  13. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    We'll be rocking our Open Play 3 days a week out here - missing our college players but it should still be pretty competitive.
     
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  14. BiggJ

    BiggJ New Member

    Jan 7, 2020
    Illinois
    I agree. It will be very interesting to see how much effort clubs really put into their programming for this.
     
  15. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MRL went with Illinois divisions for premiere and colors. and if you don’t think outbreaks will happen just look at a groups of Lincoln Way kids that held a out of state prom last month. a bunch tested positive for Corona. Colleges are having outbreaks. Louisville kicked 3 boys from their soccer team for throwing a party which became a outbreak event.
     
  16. girlssoccernewbie12

    girlssoccernewbie12 New Member

    Portland
    United States
    Apr 11, 2019
    Your argument here isn't that soccer is causing the COVID problems. Your argument is that a prom and party caused a COVID spread-and those kids play on soccer teams. My suggestion is follow what high schools do to players violating school code. If there's a "code" that is in place that says kids found at these types of parties can/will be suspended or kicked off teams, that might curb some of this. Soccer isn't the problem-kids not following Illinois social distancing/masks is the problem. Not sure who to hold accountable for that.
     
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  17. Hitcat

    Hitcat Member

    Chicago Fire
    Germany
    Feb 7, 2020
    In what world do you think a contact sport won't result in the same issue as a prom or party? Just like schools "oh it won't be a problem we have no evidence" yeah because schools and sports were shutdown early. I can contact trace a pod and I guarantee it matches a prom. Guaranteed. You think they're practicing social distancing and mask wearing in an inter team scrimmage. You're smarter than that.
     
  18. girlssoccernewbie12

    girlssoccernewbie12 New Member

    Portland
    United States
    Apr 11, 2019
    Thank you-I do consider myself intelligent. My opinion is based off the medical field telling me, as teaching going back to work with kids, that the risk to myself is low if I am in contact with a positive COVID student less than 6ft apart as long as exposure is less than 15 minutes in a closed room. It's considered negligible if I have my mask on (and they have theirs) and we are greater than 6 ft apart. I recognize in contact sports that they are not 6 feet apart. But are they less than 6 ft. apart consistently for 15 minutes one on one. My educated guess is no. At a prom partly? Absolutely they are. If the research can show me that just playing soccer outside can cause the spread of COVID-I'll agree with you for sure and believe we should shut down contact sports. But then I strongly feel I should NOT be going back to teaching high school this fall and we should consider closing our school.
     
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  19. beyond-hs

    beyond-hs New Member

    Mar 13, 2008
    FYI- if any Chicagoland clubs would like their inter-squad scrimmages livestreamed, I can assist. I also have the access to all NCAA college coaches emails and can market your games to the coaches for viewing. Great way to keep parents off the field- let them watch from the parking lot via their ipad or phone!
    www.beyond-hs.com
     
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  20. Hitcat

    Hitcat Member

    Chicago Fire
    Germany
    Feb 7, 2020
    If that's what your administration told you then they forgot to check the asterisks. 15 minutes close contact is an working time frame for a positive transmission. Kids sweaty hands on a throwin, a header blasting those viral loaded droplets right into a kids face. You don't need 15min for that. MLS couldn't control players.pre bubble (FC Dallas and Nashville FC), the MLB couldn't (Marlins were the most recent hit), no way the NFL can without a bubble. Etc etc. Checkout the disaster that Israeli schools were. And on and on across the USA. Not a matter of if, its a matter of when.
     
  21. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not spread through sweat...
    Hospitalization rate nationwide of school aged kids is .1 per 100k. They aren't going to affect impact on healthcare system.
    If the concern is kids infecting older family members or teachers, people at higher risk, I think there are some ways to protect those people.maybe
    My kids h.s. will be going 1 week at school next week online.
    As you say, not a matter if. But when. I dont think the school district has any fortitude to work thru that and if you haven't noticed, Our kids aren't exactly following guidelines. I'd bet money we dont make it until September before school is all online and I'd bet more money Jelly Belly shots down all athletics.
    I'm glad they're trying to get kids back to school but I think allowing most/all sports and distance learning would be better.
     
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  22. Hitcat

    Hitcat Member

    Chicago Fire
    Germany
    Feb 7, 2020
    Its 8 per 100k. 80x You're claim per the CDC. You're getting your number vs the entire population and not infected children. There's no way to protect a parent from being infected, "kids don't spread it" is a myth look at the real world results. Look at the Georgia school where they suspended a kid for a hallway pic. 48hrs later 9 positive as far as they know.
    As far as sweat, no it's not. You're assuming no kid is gonna rub his nose, cough, sneeze, etc. That will transfer active virus to sweat droplets. I'd prefer we're back to normal this whole thing has destroyed my routine so I don't need adhd meds going on 10yrs. It isn't easy and I'm not having fun. Reality doesn't care.
     
  23. bluechicago

    bluechicago Member

    Nov 2, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So how exactly has European soccer survived in multiple countries without a bubble? The scare tactics are laughable.
     
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  24. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member+

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Could be due to the majority of the world (less the States) shutting down 91-92% early on. We shut down 51-53% and on top of that you have a bunch of idiots in this country who are ignoring the situation altogether - young and old.
     
  25. s0cc3rdad011

    s0cc3rdad011 Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Aug 4, 2020
    Ones a a national league, one a marketing group, 2 are soccer stores or merchandise-related, 3 are clubs. Forgot to add SMP, INC out of Glenview. We all know who that is.

    The only thing that bothers me more than some of these soccer organizations taking loans after laying off staff and not refunding families is the churches and parochial schools taking loans. Wanna take a loan? Start paying taxes like the rest of us. I guess that's a different story though lol. Sorry to hijack your thread. Carry on the Covid banter! lol
     
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