MLS Flavors of the Week: 2020 Edition

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by IndividualEleven, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    That tweet about not seeing it with Aaronson didn't age well.
     
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  2. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    He needs to work on his big picture (zoom out) defensive game. I can see him in BL.
     
  3. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Bedoya is having a nice Indian summer to his career. He's a perfect fit to what the Union are doing.
     
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  5. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Maybe the sweet assist colored my judgment, cuz I didn't see too much there outside of that and 2 or 3 other nice moments.
     
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  6. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal


    I would say that the Galaxy deferring to Ibra and allowing themselves to become so one dimensional hurt the team. That isn't on Ibra, however, that is on the manager.
     
  7. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    I really like Aaronsson but I don't see it. I didn't see tonight's match but they do things differently. It's not just the fact that Havertz is better but they are different physically and they use their bodies differently. Aaronsson is more subtle than Havertz (IMO).
     
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  8. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    In addition to BA, I liked Bedoya's game. He got called out for not tracking Pulido on the back side run well enough. Fair enough - but the guy is not box-to-box, he's end to end. Made an assist at the 6, tracking back to cover a backside run.
    He won a few balls with his head, to flick them on, one setting up a dangerous run. I think they're playing for his midfield flickons. He makes good runs and good simple passes that are into players runs.

    Midfield is our deepest position, but I'd be happy seeing Bedoya in an NT 23.
     
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  9. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    He doesn’t see much of the ball, does he...what I think is actually impressive is everything he does off the ball at his age. I think that’s really why Europe is calling, they see the makings of a complete midfielder.
     
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  10. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    They see vision and execution if they saw that pass. That wasn't an easy player to see or to pick out with that lovely curling ball. I feel like his issues are mostly all tactical stuff that can be coached. Vision and passing along with his quick feet and skill aren't things they can teach so much. They can work with him on showing for the ball and improving his positioning.
     
  11. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you watch that game, & you're confident in talent development, you're licking your chops at the prospect of working w/ Aaronson to put the finishing touches on. That's all it looked like he needed. 5 lbs of muscle here, a split second sooner decision to shoot there, etc. Fixable issues.

    I think he should want to go after this season, helping Union achieve success already. And Philly send him along, as should a prospective club pay a very sizable $5-10 million fee. Could potentially help said club in a capacity from the outset with his pressing, abilities in possession/creation off the dribble, & inconsistent brilliance from the outset. Then refine along the way where he could be a steal that could fetch them $50 million-plus, if he stays healthy & is nurtured properly.

    That fits the model of many of the upper-mid table BL clubs.
     
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  12. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As I said earlier in this thread Aaronson is a very young player with a very high ceiling.

    As he develops we will see exactly the level of his ceiling. See Mix, Joe Corona, Julian Green, Lletget, Morris, Kellyn Acosta, Nagbe, ...

    Havertz is much more of a goal scoring Ozil at this point but if you squint hard enough you could see Aaronson getting there
     
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  13. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Busio was very disappointing last night. A very high ceiling youngster who is starting to show his limitations. He has similar limitations as Freddy Adu; low work-rate, short legs, low knee lift, and low turnover rate.

    Low energy performance.
     
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  14. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Reminiscent of Sir Alex's biomechanical analysis of Jordan Henderson.
     
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  15. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, he actually has a surprisingly good first step and pressing stamina.
     
  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    #1341 IndividualEleven, Jul 31, 2020
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    Orlando vs LAFC: Mueller(RAM) vs Blackmon(RB)

    2 out of the starting 22 are US-eligible. You can get that in a B1 match.
     
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  17. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    I'm not too good at comparing styles but what I see with Aaronson is a player that has very good vision and uses his body very well (especially given that he isn't that big) and is very good at subtle movements and using the motion of the ball and the movement of the defender against him (I hope that makes sense)..... Havertz moves the ball more to beat the defender ....he makes the defender move by putting his foot to the ball. i really like Aaronson but, like you, I think it is best to just wait and see. Will he be in that top tier of players? Impossible to say but he has a lot of potential. Even with his phenomenal start, who would have predicted Pulisic would be at the level his is now...especially at his current age? Certainly not me.
     
  18. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    The Powers that Be have seemed obsessed about getting Bradley back in the team for leadership. I want Bedoya back in the team for leadership.
     
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  19. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a renaissance for bedoya, at 33 years old, who everyone complained about throughout his international career?

    yall crack me up, bigsoccer.
     
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  20. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    all aboard the Orlando big hype train. Pareja has that team firing on all cylinders.
     
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Example #8762592345 that coaching matters.

    People really shouldn't be surprised. He did it in Colorado and Dallas.
    Won the SS in Dallas with the lowest payroll in the league..................

    Orlando's academy isn't in the great shape Dallas' was in, so it'll take a little time before he's using younger kids there. Of course, Pareja built Dallas' academy. He knows what to do....................
     
  22. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm hoping that in 5 years when he's built up Orlando City's academy program he'll get hired by Portland. And then move on to another team 5 years after that. The guy has a very proven track record at this point.
     
  23. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Isn't the problem with our current leadership the absolute failure or inability to try something new, something innovative, or different?

    Great, bedoya was the 2000s Paul arriola. What does that matter when right now he's playing well and leading well?
     
  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Bedoya was a crucial member of a World Cup team and had 87 appearances in a top-5. Not remotely comparable to Paul Arriola in such a manner.
     
  25. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Whoooosh. Keep up. Point is he's a MF that everyone complains about but does a job.
     
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