we lost 2x to fking Costa Rica in 2-3 weeks I went to the 2nd lost In that Copa oro. the Jamaicans are stronger and faster and surprised Mexico. You make it sound like teams can’t lose. Fking Brazil can lose to China. Jet lag, the whole team gets sick with the water who knows.
Man are you conscious of what you write? 1.Colombia didt played copa de oro....and when played agaisnt costa rica in copa america were QUALIFIED TO NEXT ROUND, played with subs. 2. Mexico was elimiated form the tournament to jamaica. Tournament that mexico only failed to win when was managed by Osorio. a year before they were champions and a year after.....Meixco Underperfomeed with Osorio....and they had their worst defeat in history because their experiments.........all for a process that end with the same results that mexico had in worlc dup 2014 and in world cup 2010.
It is true. I don't mind having playoffs, I do like them (When it is knockout style, not a "cuadrangular" which i despise). But yeah your point still stands
No, if you want to stop the humilliation you just have to PLAY BETTER, stop the goals, make subs SOMETHING. Going for the legs is incredibly stupid, irresponsible and childish, you see that on recreation leagues and such, not on professional players. I always hated that about the Argentinians, the mother********ers always become such sore losers when the game is not going their way.
yeah for entertainmet isnt bad....but helps "mediocre teams".............Osorio in watford wouldnt have that price
Good to be back!! Long time no see, guys Today we have Patriotas away and we will try to avoid the 13th game in a raw that we concede goals. This team's defense + goalkeeper is a joke, and also Osorio's decisions. It's hard for me not towin to take the title, but honestly I can't stand another season with Osorio. Lucky for us that he wasn't appointed to the NT, we have to pray that he'll accept the offer from England according to the latest rumors.
BTW, rumor that we want Aviles Hurtado for 2021. Don't think it'll happen but regardless, we have a WHOLE new defense to replace before we need another attacking winger.
No more Osorio then. Pomplio and Restrepo will coach the team against River before someone permanenent will be appointed. I will never forgive the responsibles who fired Rueda when we were the best club in the continent. The downfall started there. Since he left no coach last more than a year. Lillo, Almiron, Autori and Osorio, who would be fired way before if he wasn't so important in Nacional's legacy.
Agree on all counts. I have never liked Osorio. Not even in his first stint with the club, but at least his first time he won something (at least locally). This time around was horrible really, we never won against big teams (only DIM) and the constant rotations are insufferable. he should have been let go long ago, but as you said, he has history with the club so he had more leeway. Also his signings have been horrible. He gives a lot of playing time to mediocre players like Blanco, but some people with promise don't get time to develop. I just think that there will be a clean house at the end of the year. Not only was osorio's fault, but there are a lot of players that are simply inconsistent or just play mediocre.
River Plate eliminated us from Sudamericana. Not the good one... River Plate from Uruguay. We suck donkey balls. I am pretty sure that there are several players that won't get renovated. My hope is that it should be around 20 players that should go. Simply shameful.
Not too many times I hope that we won't win, this was one of them. We really, really don't belong to any int'l level at this moment. I can count on one hand the players that should stay. But first we'll have to see who will coach us. If Chile won't do well in the upcoming fixtures, Rueda may be fired. We do have to try and finish the league as good as we can, although I don't see it happening since the last time we didn't concede goals was in Feb. 11. We have a WEAK team, and we have to deal with it. Today crucial complicated match against Pasto.
If rueda gets fired he should just wait for the Colombia job. Like we don’t play well at all under the new coach
rueda had to stay in flamengo more time....and there wait for colombia.........but he was obsessed and so interested in chile(bad move...a team that didnt qaulify to last wc and that doesnt have a new good generation)
They tied and should have beat us last month they destroyed us at a copa America but some nice VAR calls saved the coaches ass
What is your logic? They only havent played against colombia. The performance of rueda have been bad overall, very few matcbes have won, that chile had good matches agaisnt colombia (without victory) doesnt mean they arent strgluggling with the generation change....they were humillated by peru in copa for example
Any word on posible additions to the team or new coach for new year? I'd like to see Alexis Mendoza or Lionel Álvarez... I think Oscar Pareja from Orlando would be a great pick up.. Being Colombian but also having experience in a league with fast pace... He's done well he has gone and improved the team's he's gotten... But more than anything Atlético Nacional needs CBs.. I'd love to see Cristian Zapata and Bernardo Espinosa that would be a dream and maybe add Carlos Sánchez and Gio Moreno and Rodallega... OK I'm done talking nonsense
Nacional dont need players close to retirmente to recover.....and beranrdo is far away to be a to player to be considered a dream........players for being in another player doesnt mean they are better of local material. Nacional got last year tino costa a player that was start with valencia and Argentina national team furing this decade....and his impact was little. Nacional needs strong players in the league or another american league with good age......
At this point I'd rather see 2015 all stars vs what been on the pitch.. They're awful. MLS teams look better. And now looking at the rest of the league.. There isn't talent... There just isn't.... This is the worst I've seen Colombian football. And with how bad the recent u20s national team has been its not like there is a plethora of vast talent to sign for the future and give hope to see a team of young stars.... The only hope is a good manager that can make a team out of journeymen that really haven't wowed anyone.. Because the Liga Bet play doesn't have 20 or 10 amazing wowing players in their mid 20s... And the only guy even doing a decent job at that is Gamero... Tolima is left over of his work and the other teams at the top of the table are there because someone has to win or draw eventually....no one is playing well or let alone attractive football in Colombia... So actually it makes more sense to get guys in their 30s playing in tougher leagues than to think Sebastián Soto or Quiñónez are going to become an amazing star to carry Atlético Nacional to copa libertadores or even win the local league.... Best bet is to get aging stars... Then guys like Jarlan and Andrade can be role players that just have to be asked to contribute and add and not try to carry the game... This team is beyond lost right now
In colombia there are a lot of good players, just bad scouting of Nacional and in respect to the the recent "bad perfromances" of u -20.......the last u-20 reached until round of 8 in world cup, only 2 times before we reached to this phase. a mediocre player like bernanrdo tthat rotates in the worse teams in spain, and almost retired players with no activity like carlos sanchez or zapata......arent solution and wont offer more than emerging good players of the league. tino costa that were starter in a better team that your dream colombians played like valencia and part of batter national team than colombia, like argentina....didnt give a super impact.....to nacional...call me that type of players close to retirement arent solutions
There is talent in Colombia, what we don't have is a proper development structure. We suck (Nacional and others) at that
i think that is bad that coaches have to much power....for example suck that osorio ask a lot of players and pinto...asked shitty players to their teams because they are the only ones that think are so good..... A coach have to request players in some positions that he thinks that they dont have and then the board aprroved...not take gonzalez lasso and baldomero....or some old players...because in their vision are good... for example pinto in millonarios fired some central backs like rambal and payares...to get deiby balanta and moreno (they guy that was in valencia) who were terrible but for pinto were good because they were big and smal....now millonarios is using only youth players in that position.,,because of that mistake of pinto,
FC Emmen heeft een overeenkomst bereikt met Atlético Nacional over de transfer van Michael Chacon. 🇨🇴Michael moet in Colombia nog medisch gekeurd worden en tekenen. ✍️#HIERKOMIKWEG pic.twitter.com/ZlpovbzunG— FC Emmen (@FC_Emmen) January 4, 2021
I think I mentioned him like 10 years ago haha. Tho he was like in 3rd division at that point. nacional needs to just steal the best players in the league and not let them go to Mexico, China or MLS. Same with Both Cali teams and Junior