Argentine NT: News, Stats & Players [R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by jimmi_moh, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Emiliano Martínez might be somebody Scaloni should continue to keep his eye on. He’s been apparently in fine form for Arsenal between the posts. He’s still 27, so, he could be somebody that could be considered. But a lot has to do if he gets to play and is the #1 at his club. Along with Musso(Who could be on the move), we need some continuity in important positions. I know there are the likes of Armani, Marchesín and Andrada are also on his radar... But again, who knows when qualifiers kick-off, rumor is October... So, we’ll need players in form.
     
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  2. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man City's UCL ban is overturned. So Messi to England now in play? LOL
     
  3. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  4. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    With his assist vs. Valladolid, Messi reached Xavi's record for most assists in a single La Liga season (20).

    It's become somewhat normalized since Lio has accustomed us to all of his ridiculous shit, but it really is incredible that ONE player now holds all of La Liga's records for most goals and assists, both in individual seasons AND all-time

    "I sound like a broken record every time I break a record"
     
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  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #9605 Rattlehead, Jul 15, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2020
    He seems slowing down in goalscoring department in recent weeks but obviously thats because he's been the one that pulling the strings for them and his team has no one in midfield who can creates anything for him.

    Setien even admitted after Valladolid match that he couldnt rest Messi simply because the team was already struggling even with Messi great performance, let alone without his presence.

    Lautaro finally scored again and also had a great header assist for Inter first goal.
     
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  6. Duchene2Mackinnon

    May 9, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Dominquez after a slow start is settling in nicely with Bologna. Im still not sold on him being NT quality. Just haven't seen enough of him to gauge his potential or even what he fully brings to the table. He is very promising though.
     
  7. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Completely forgot about this kid...

    Real Madrid are in talks with Eintracht Frankfurt regarding the possible loan/transfer of Francisco Feuillassier ("Franchu")

    https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2020/07/15/5f0f2fed46163f0b8c8b4589.html

    Zidane was the one who handed him his professional debut in 2017, although he hasn't seen any minutes since Zizou returned to the club. Apparently he underwent some injuries in between and has been relegated since.

    He turned 22 in May.. good for him to go looking for minutes rather than rotting away in Castilla
     
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  8. Duchene2Mackinnon

    May 9, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    My only concern for the future is fullbacks and keeping. The rest of the positions are really coming along but those two positions have been eluding the NT for some time. Save for Tagliafico and hopefully Montiel not much to like about it. Both guys are not that young either. Keeping is even worse.
     
  9. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Montiel just barely turned 23 this year... :confused:

    In fact, he was even eligible to play the U-23 Pre-Olympic Tournament earlier this year.. are you trying to field a U-20 squad in Qatar??

    As for GKs, I wouldn't be too concerned with age.. you could argue that none of our goalies are quite world class, but that's a topic unrelated to age. If we're talking strictly about them being "too old," I wouldn't worry much. Keepers typically peak much later in their careers than outfield players, with many arguing that a GK's "golden era" is in his late 20's-30's. Pumpido and Fillol were 29 and 28 respectively when we lifted our WC titles.. Hugo Lloris was 31 when France won the last WC, Buffon was 28, Casillas 30, etc...

    Right now Musso is 26, Armani 33, Benitez 27, Andrada 29, Martinez 27--you could actually say they are all at the best possible time for a call-up in terms of age. Hell, I would have still called-up Barovero last year for CA with his 35 years of age, personally.

    If we're talking about goalkeeper quality, sure we don't have a Buffon, Yashin, or a Kahn.... but you do realize how rare it is to have such gems, right? We may not have the "Messi of goalkeeping," but our options aren't at all half-bad either. I'd say several of the above-mentioned names are far superior to Sergio Romero, and we reached 3 international finals with chiquito in goal.
     
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  10. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I’ve never understood why players wait till they’re 22 or so to leave the junior side. It is time to play some top-flight football. From 15 till 18 or 19, fine, but if you haven’t been promoted to the first team by 22 then something isn’t right. So many of our cracks in the past made the jump by their teen years. I hope he does well in Germany if does end up there.



    Well said. Some fans need to ease up on their expectations. Not everybody is going to be world-class at 18-19. Having pieces to the puzzle fit is the most important thing. The most talented side doesn’t always end up winning a tournament. At club level things work differently since you can buy pieces to your project. I think we are moving in the right direction. There is at least some type of project that is in front of us.
     
  11. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Argentina with keepers they have Romero, Armani, Musso, Benitez, Martinez and Andrada...pretty solid
     
  12. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lautaro has played a bit better today for Inter. A lot of movement and has connected well with his teammates. It does appear his time at Inter is coming to an end but Barcelona are in shambles right now. I’m not sure if he can help, they still rely on Messi for everything. And who knows if Messi is going to stay. Watching them lose the title to a very mediocre Madrid side must tell you how bad they really are. City are also interested.

    Mallorca have been relegated with a game to go. Perhaps Luka gets a game since it is over for them. But remember he is still a child. He has time on his side and perhaps he continues to work with the team and gets more games in the second division.

    Genoa is also very close getting relegated, Cristian Romero will perhaps be loaned out to another top-flight side if he doesn’t join Juve. Perhaps a better idea since the probably won’t be a starter. I believe he’s even captained for I Rossoblù. We’ll see I suppose.
     
  13. Duchene2Mackinnon

    May 9, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I was strictly referring about prospects. Montiel is 23 he has 2 world cups in him. After that however, it gets murky. You're looking at Foyth at RB again. This is of course hypothetically, since we don't know what will happen in the future. I'm just excited for the prospects coming out on defence, midfield and of course attacking. However were not seeing it full backs or keepers. I'd easily take another Romero don't need them to be elite at their clubs just be good for the NT. Make no mistake Romero was that.
     
  14. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Madrid has not been mediocre this season. They improved their defence a lot and they are the team with the most clean sheets and the fewest goals conceded in the league. But I agree with the rest you said. Barca have deep problems and everything needs to change from top to bottom. Right now, the team reminds me of what Argentina went through in the WC 2018 and Barcelona needs a big change. Although the change won't happen until 2021.
     
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  15. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    Prior to Covid shutting things down...
    Madrid drew with Celta
    Madrid lose to Levante
    Madrid lose to City
    Madrid defeat Barca
    Madrid lose to Betis...


    Since returning, they’ve had 3-4 matches where they won 1-0 or by a single goal thanks to a penalty. As somebody notified me on the Barca forum, since the returning, in 10 matches they’ve been awarded 5 penalties. Most have been very soft penalties. Madrid have in fact been very mediocre.

    But to their benefit, this is a Barca side that has been utter shit the entire season. Messi is fed up. If Barca are knocked out by Napoli or if they end up getting embarrassed by 3-4 goals in the KO stages, he is gone. He’s not going to waste his last great years playing for this team and with City getting a pass for Europe, Man City is the only team that he’ll go to.
     
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  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    City is the only possible destination. They got the $$, they want CL so bad and never even reach the final despite their squad quality. Also, its a team without history of rivalry with Barca and it is known as a club for mercenaries. Although I like the fact that Tevez ditched MU and won title with City lol

    Barca is probably in 8th position right now if wasnt his goals and assists. I believe Messi wants to play in next WC so I think he's still motivated at least for few more years .

    Madrid got helped as they usually does in both league and CL, nothing new. Both Barca & them has played like crap this season.
     
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  17. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Messi if he does leave Barcelona which I doubt he ever would but let's say he does, clubs he would go to other than Man City:

    Real Madrid
    Chelsea
    Manchester United
    AC Milan
    Inter Milan
    PSG (Paris St Germain)

    Or Messi does the unthinkable and he goes to MLS going to Major League Soccer...because it could happen especially since Messi is getting older
     
  18. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Messi going to Real Madrid...?

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  19. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So, Bielsa got Leeds promoted. Last season they fell just short but he did it this season. I believe the break helped Leeds. Most of his sides in Europe tend to breakdown by the end of the year since his playing style demands a lot of energy.
     
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  20. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    If only Bielsa was still manager of Argentina I wonder how better they would be with him at the helm
     
  21. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    [​IMG]
     
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  22. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ran into this little gem the other day...

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    he Argentine NT entering the pitch in their first ever World Cup game

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    Argentina: 1 - France: 0
    July 15, 1930 -- Montevideo, Uruguay
     
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  23. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Fast forward 90 years later, Argentina are just as big a threat as they were then
     
  24. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn they look so sharp there with the jackets, lol.
     
  25. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Messi is the first player in history to officially record a 1000 goals and assists in top level football.

    703 goals, 298 assists for 1001 goal contributions in only 867 games.

    Let that sink in.

    Also, the first player ever to record 25 goals-20 assists double-double in European Top 5 leagues.
     
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