Craven the Lifestyle: Antonee Robinson at Fulham

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  1. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They have money issues. Theo is young and shaping up as a top LB. Those go for massive premiums. Milan could use the 60-70 million Theo will bring them next year. That’s why their already looking at AR as a replacement and want time to get him settled.

    Agreed with Leicester city being a better fit.

    Yea that’s just down right unfortunate on their part. Looks like it’s working out for AR tho.
     
  2. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    It was actually announced Elliott is cleaned up the debt which was good. Most investors though want the San Siro situation resolved but thats another different story.

    But yes Milan is taking the Leipzig/Dortmund approach now. Rumors are they are giving 75 million for transfers plus any sales fees so if Theo could get them 60 million after buying him for 20? Sure. But Antonee is not being viewed as a replacement for Theo. He is being viewed as a replacement for Diego Laxalt and Ricardo Rodriguez as the back up... and also Davide Calabria who is a primary RB but is likely being sold
     
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  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    You have a better view of human nature than I, my friend...

    Of course, I'm just being a dick, but it is something I'd never thought of before: a player who has incentive to allow/make his team go down cause he has a drop clause. (Like, let's say Wigan told him no way the'll let him go if they stay up as they're committed to fighting for promotion next year...)

    Anyway, totally off topic and a silly hypothetical so I hope he goes to the EPL. I don't want to have to follow another league.
     
  4. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I really hope he's not acquired cheaply by a big club. His margin of error would be zero.
     
  5. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Announced... I’ll believe it when I see it. They’ve had money issues for ages and it’s not the first time it’s been announced they’d right the ship.

    Their trying to buy him as a back up now but to groom as a replacement for Theo when he leaves.
     
  6. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol idk if I’d go that far. These guys don’t get to where they are without wanting to win at all costs.

    No worries and it’s def an interesting situation. I suspect he will be sold no matter what and even if they tried to u-turn on him he could potentially still force his way out.

    Second that motion.
     
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  7. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    1.5 million?? Jesus, he can buy himself out and then demand a 5 million-plus signing-on fee from just about anyone
     
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  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Starts:

     
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  9. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Let's see if he becomes an OG machine as @freisland has forecast. :p
     
  10. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    I haven’t seen this posted. Apologies if it’s a double tap.

     
  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    WBA would be a very good destination, IMO.
     
  12. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    the fix is in! Take the over!!

    (gotta admit if he was getting a good piece of that 8.5 mill spread for an OG it's pretty tempting!)
     
  13. WiganFanFromQueensNY

    Wigan
    France
    Jun 5, 2017
    Robinson went 90 minutes again and put in a 7/10 shift (my rating) in 1-0 home win against QPR.

    He made no magical plays in attack but led a stellar defensive effort against the highly rated QPR duo of Eze and Oyasi-Samuel limiting the Rangers to just one clear cut chance all match.

    Very resilient effort by Wigan who were absolutely thrashed by Brentford on Saturday and have only received 20% of their weekly wages since going into administration
     
  14. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Are they going to get the 12 point deduction for going into administration? It wouldn't totally sink them but they'd be on life support.
     
  15. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007

    maybe the kid never 'makes it' in the top flight, but it wont be because of weak mentality. a leader
     
  16. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    They have 3 bottom feeders and Fulham in their last 4 games. Realistically they have to win 3 of those 4, and it would be nice if Hull was one of those 3 wins.

    FWIW, 538.com gives them a 42% chance to do it.
     
  17. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Especially the club that belongs to Zlatan.
     
  18. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    I've read a bit about this situation, and the EFL statement yesterday, but does anyone know more? The whole situation stinks to high heavens, to the point the Filipino casino's stock increased threefold with ~50 times the trade activity since the sale. It's real messed up what is happening, but seems the EFL simply doubled down in saying the 12 points will be deducted.

    Didn't the EFL have to approve the sale? If so, why is it on Wigan? Did some kind of board of directors for Wigan need to make the ultimate decision, so they are being blamed for it, and the EFL just did a cursory "ok, you can go ahead" without much responsibility?

    Just seems bizarre to potentially relegate a club when, as far as I can tell, it was nobody fault other than these sketchy Chinese dudes who are up to something no good (whether that be betting big on relegation in their own casinos, or simply wanting to get rid of the loss leader EFL team, I have no idea).
     
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  19. WiganFanFromQueensNY

    Wigan
    France
    Jun 5, 2017
    At this moment, yes.

    https://www.efl.com/news/2020/july/...eJ2GuMUy6aitIOYTBgCxD1soKOh2odd5lXWNrF3LR5KDs

    The club is expected to appeal the deduction (if they haven't already), and there is some speculation that with all the shady dealings having gone on, the 12 point deduction could be reduced if not eradicated when the club goes before the independent review panel.

    I am not sure how likely either of those scenarios are and what the time table for that decision would be.
     
  20. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    So how can the EFL deduct 12 points when they were the ones who approved the sale? And by at least one account I've seen, there was some shadiness about the sale even before it was approved? Isn't the more rational response "due to some issues related to this sale, we will not be applying the deduction until a review has been conducted"?
     
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  21. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The English love to follow arbitrary guidelines that they needlessly created.

    See also: Brexit
     
  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    In this instance they might call it deductive reasoning. :D
     
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  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    If the right check goes to the right person things will be fixed somehow.
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That's how the system of cheques and balances is supposed to work, no?
     
  25. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Robinson started and went 87 minutes in a really disappointing 0-0 draw at last-place Barnsley, in which Wigan managed 0 shots on target.

    Wigan are in last place with the 12-point deduction, 15th and 9 points clear of relegation without it.
     
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