Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 27, 2018.

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  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    we need proven players like herr Draxler, who started 2/3 WC games in 2018, lol.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    always find it hilarious at how that guy makes fusses about squad selections, especially for senior NT all the time. But everytime someone else criticizes selections, comes in here and makes a huge fuss and always to defend dfb and every decision whether youth ones or Senior NT. DFB makes wrong decisions all the time, they aren't immune to stupidity.

    that's prime example of being a hypocrite who also can't stand anyone else's opinion but his own.
     
  3. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    Sané lol . Yes he was called up to CC 2017 but he had a surgery.
     
  4. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kante made it to French NT at 25, nothing wrong with that

    23/24 is perfect age for Nt selection

    Sané was called up early but to be honest he only started to deliver late;

    u know Gnabry wasn’t fit for WC 2018 too

    I just don’t think 24/25 playing for NT is a problem at all. Many players made their pro debut at 20/21, takes two years to make Nt... nothing wrong with that . Consider the U21 is till 23 years old now

    At least Gnabry started establishing himself as a starter in NT since 23, not bench. Even Ter Stegen or Leno has been called up early, how would those experience help them if they are only benchwarmers

    23 being a starter in any NT is still relatively good age
     
  5. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    Just stop those paranoid. U have worries every day

    now saying Sané only played one major tournament at 24... and start making a fuss again LOL

    Gnabry started for Nt at 23... and u are complaining again... yea maybe he shouldve started Playing when he was 12 lol

    u need to find a psychiatrist

    u are making yourself a psychopath... mate u need help
     
  6. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Sane and Gnabry have to be in the squad I mean that is just a given. But all that aside, Germany's attack is pretty solid and same goes for their midfield. Defense at the back is solid but then you have enough depth back there with Kehrer, Tah, Torunarigha, Rudiger, Sule, Stark, Gosens, Koch, I could go on and on but you have to drop some of them but even doing that, the defense is still pretty solid. Then you have Neuer and Ter Stegen probably 2 of the best goalkeepers in the world and both are German. You can't go wrong with either one of them but Ter Stegen should be starting over Neuer especially at this point. Neuer is what 34 turning 35 by the time EURO 21 starts. Ter Stegen is younger he is 28 turning 29. Who would you rather have?
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #5682 Ger90, Jun 27, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2020
    reading KHR posting is like reading 100% bullshit garbage waste of time posts. This guy is delusional, always bringing up paranoia/worries when they got 0 to do with having normal discussions. Nothing I posted have anything to do with things like that

    this guys is a demented, I'm a psycho one? His stalker routine and ego mania NOW that's psycho. It's funny that KHR always describes HIMSELF when he talks about me.

    go see a psychiatrist you POS. None of your postings are normal and show how much you need to stop posting in here. Like seriously go away you sad sack of trolling shit.

    and this guy's arguments are always weak as shit sauce. Can't argue to save his life so always targets the posters instead. Everything he posted=laughable.

    and a guy who actively roots for German players to fail as well.....
     
  8. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So with Sane and Maybe Havertz Our NT Line up for next year Euro
    ----------------------------Neuer-----------------------------------------
    NOT BAYERN------Sule-------Boateng----------------NOT Bayern
    -------------------Kimmich---------------------Gorestka-------------------
    Ganbry-------------------------Muller------------------------Sane
    -----------------------------------Havertz----------------------------

    If they play at Bayern that way why not at NT level........
     
  9. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Better lineup on a 4-2-3-1

    GK- Neuer
    LB- Halstenberg
    CB- Sule
    CB- Rudiger
    RB- Klostermann
    CDM- Kimmich
    CDM- Kroos
    LAM- Gnabry
    CAM- Goretzka
    RAM- Sane
    CF- Havertz
     
  10. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think this team is quite likely, will depend on how Werner settles in at Chelsea. 6 Bayern players, like in the 2014 WC. ;)
     
  11. RacMan93

    RacMan93 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Montreal
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think Reus can still start for the team
     
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  12. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He has to stay fit first. 31 and only 44 caps is too few for a player with that talent.
     
  13. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Plus with my lineup you don't have the core of Muller, Hummels, Reus, Boateng, etc because it is time to move on from said players and focus on the future
     
  14. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #5689 BorisG, Jul 4, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2020
    We have great new generation of players . They should and could be starters for the NT.

    If I was low however and he makes sure he gets his politics and team spirit right like in 2014 and makes it clear to the older players what their role is I would at this stage as they are In super form defiantly would want my benchers to be ...
    Hummels Boateng , Kroos , muller, Can and Reus .

    These 6 players are always good enough to fill the gaps at anytime .

    If it’s clear to them and they understand their role if anything happens at any time in a tournament ( injuries , red cards , last 10 Minute push ) as a coach it would be great to know you have these guys on the bench if required .

    Tournaments are played differently - you need one team to gel together for 1 month and to get the best options together for a short time to make it work .

    If loew wants to build a team for the future that idea is bull , he needs to build a team that works for 1-3 months at that given time. Why play for the future in the NT, you have to play the best possible team that you can put together at the time of the tourney . We don’t play tourney to build a team for the future we play the tourney to win the bloody thing !
    Bugger the future man tourney are about the now and here . Play the best team at that point and make sure you win ! If we play a tourney to build a team for the future then you are the wrong coach ,
    You okay a tourney brings the best possible team and try and make sure you bloody win .

    Huh ??? [emoji23]
     
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  15. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Low should just grow some balls and not be intimidated by the older players . If he can manage them
    Properly they can only be an asset if used correctly .

    I went through some of the history of the last tourneys ... 2018, 2016, skipped 2014, 2012 and 2010 ...

    In all those tourney I saw that the teams were not bad but we always lacked the right combination of young and old players . Either Low kept on playing the older guys and
    Never gave the youngster a chance or he played youngsters with out the backup of some older guys .

    In 2014 the mix was right .

    I truly believe that Germany at this stage could win again if loew just gets the right dynamics and mix
    Of
    Players
    Together. 23 players all ready to fire when needed ! Boom
     
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  16. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The Low for you ...
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    this is true he never learned as to why France 2002, Italy 2010, Spain 2014 flopped because they basically played the same old guys as in previous tourney aka aging squad.

    after winning CC17 you would think we would have gotten perfect mix of young and old. We even wasted players like Goretzka/Kimmich to play Khedira's corpse. Or Rudy who doesn't belong in NT.....

    you always need to rejuvenate your squad.
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    players like Draxler and all those CBs who haven't looked good at all for dfb!!!
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    great qualities and abilities that we DIDN'T need him for WC18, LOL.
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I've always been iffy about Rudiger and never convinced me for dfb either. He always seems shaky and his ball clearances are really bad too. Like no joke his ball clearances is stuff you see from U19-3rd Liga players, lol.

    he's been getting tons of shit from Chelsea fans these days too. Seems to have been disasterclass vs West Ham and got benched today too.

    already 27, I really don't think he'll get that much better as a CB.
     
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  21. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes West Ham was a particularly bad game for Rudiger, especially the third goal for Yarmolenko. He should have made sure to show him on to his right foot, you absolutely cannot allow him to cut inside. Everyone knows that's where his strength is.

    I think there is a real problem with CB's in general these days, the art of defending is being lost. So few quality defenders around, a lot that are good ball players sure but things like decision making, positional awareness etc are lacking.

    Germany needs the next generation of CB's to break through into bigger clubs asap. The current bunch are pretty average in the main, apart from possibly Sule, but at least the same can be said for a lot of other countries too.
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I agree completely decision making, positional awareness are severely lacking. Also think too many CBs seem bad in 1v1 these days, like way too many are being dribbled by with ease.

    I think the more you rely on dribbling/speed the more cbs have less time to think, the game is getting faster.

    for Germany, Sule injured basically all season, Rudiger always questionable spent good chunk of season injured. Stark injured/bench, Tah got benched. It doesn't look great and we are lucky Euro got delayed by 1 year.

    yeah we really need next gen to breakthrough for real and as many as possible in CL or EL teams. I would say from outfield players the most important one that needs CL is CBs, to play vs the best in the world. Playing only in 1BL isn't good enough at International level.
     
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  23. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    This is a very good and interesting discourse. I don't think this is due to regression of CB quality itself, but due to the nature of the game currently. No matter how good you are in reading opponent movement, you always split second behind if the attacker has blistering pace. Compared the speed and acceleration of current generation winger and striker compared to decades ago. And on top of that, the bar for refereeing had been upper to ridiculous level if I might said.
     
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  24. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Top NT players for the season....mhhh Muller, BOA and Hummels
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  25. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

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