News: 2020 Season and Virus Talk

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by nbrooks503, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #2676 juvechelsea, Jul 1, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2020
    Westie, that bait you swallowed about capacity the other day was pure PR:

    https://www.propublica.org/article/internal-messages-reveal-crisis-at-houston-hospitals-as-coronavirus-cases-surge
    https://abc13.com/covid-19-pandemic-coronavirus-hospitals/6286076/

    we are now sending patients to hospitals in surrounding counties to preserve the appearance of capacity here ie we nominally have room but only by canceling various access aspects and sending people away as new ones come in the other door

    it is half smart coping but you will just start filling hospitals in concentric circles outwards as you borrow from peter to pay paul, trying to create room for the next batch

    they already say ambulances are waiting for a period of time to even offload patients at certain hospitals

    if you have a brain now is when you lockdown or otherwise impose serious restrictions before the hospitals and staff overload and meds and materiel start running out

    do you understand you are being managed so as to not create panic, and not by smart public policy, but by politicians trying to not look bad?

    abbott is a shrewd politician who tries to make himself look good, the sort of manipulator who would make his fortune from a tort settlement when a tree put him in the wheel chair and then make his signature issue tort reform ie pull the drawbridge up from behind him.
     
  2. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    why? he’s glacially slow and without boswell/hinault’s calmness and inherent defensive savvy

    to me you bet on raw youth with some sort of useful apttitude (speed, calm, heading, sheer defensive ability), or a particular system fit, not a struggling veteran player suddenly turning a corner. to me that’s landin type hopefulness.

    to me you know what you have in a player within weeks.

    re figueroa i liked him early last season but he tailed off over the full term. he is the best of a bad lot but like beasley one has to be honest with themselves how long it lasts. and it’s not a long term solution, it’s probably almost a career.
     
  3. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    see Juve, I have a good memory: that Propublica article is a joint article between them and an NBC News Houston writer, Mike Hixenbaugh, who wrote a similar fake news article back at the end of March talking about the Houston hospital catastrophe which never happened!! And the new article cites LBJ and Ben Taub which are always full because they are hospitals of last resort (LBJ ICU is like 92% full every day of the year)



    ever heard of SETRAC?
     
  4. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Your weakly attempted refutation of the article is bull. You reference a tweet where he got corrected. A tweet is not an article. The article did not rely on the corrected point. The tweet did. The article YOU GAVE US has nurses and other officials saying we were having capacity problems LAST TIME. Do you have any refutation for that? Or is this just a “know-nothing” pseudo skeptic right wing thing where if you ever get corrected every article you ever published as a journalist is supposedly fake news? Surely you see the obvious logic flaw in part for whole here. And since you didn’t so much as correct a “the” in the old article you have refuted nothing. Except perhaps in Fox world. In Fox world Trump is the greatest source of information ever. That’s backwards. I’d trust subject matter experts and news reporters over professional spinners every day of the week.

    News media is saying the whole TMC is over ICU capacity, not just the Harris Health “public” hospitals. You arguments about the public hospitals do not explain the whole.

    You were pimping this “but they already use a lot of the capacity” argument before, this is just a variation on that. Now you say the public hospitals usually had a lot of ICU. Before you were saying they all did. Same diff.

    You’re trying to make this into a “how much does Covid add” discussion. That’s misleading. The point is that if someone went to a hospital today in bad shape could they properly get cared for. They care about capacity. They care about staffing. They don’t care if the hospital is like “well, we only had so much capacity to begin with, sorry.”. Yours is an excuse for going over capacity, an admission of the very problem I am pointed out — just with an “explanation.”

    That explanation is unconvincing for a second surge in particular. Are you saying knowing they had capacity issues the first time AND. Fauci and others saying it’s coming back some more, they had the same capacity the second time?
     
  5. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    You also neglect that capacity issues are starting to spread, RGV was having over capacity issues too. Dallas, Austin,, SA too. At. a point we will quit having chess pieces to move around.
     
  6. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    this NBC reporter is nothing more than an overly dramatic fake news guy. He’s been trying to push the “Houston hospital are lying and this is armageddon” since March. Anonymous quotes and leaked email fragments with no context. Very thin.

    and Hotez is the worst, all day on CNN and MSNBC talking about how bad it is
     
  7. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
  8. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
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  9. Penwyth

    Penwyth Member

    Mar 10, 1999
    Earth
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    Love it!!!....jokes about American citizens who have died in tragic circumstances. What next...jokes about American soldiers killed and their bounty prices?

    Too bad the Laff Stop is no longer around to snatch up your talent.
     
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  10. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    #2686 Westside Cosmo, Jul 6, 2020
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    Do you know what their road record is last 4 seasons: 7-43-18. Not far off 8-46.
     
  11. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    I looked at the data and searched a bit and didn’t see the Dynamo or Brener but could have missed it searching if they put it under a different entity

     
  12. nbrooks503

    nbrooks503 Previously Held @Dynamo Hostage From 2008-2019

    Jun 1, 2008
    Disgruntled Former STH - Fairweather Bandwaggoner
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2021 Sales campaign apparently started today.

    2021Dynamo.jpg
     
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  13. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
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    United States
    I guess this would be that time on the calendar - but seems a bit odd given that they've only played 1 home game with no guarantee of any others in 2020. I have to go look at the 8 page legal document that governs the season ticket agreement but they may have had to release pricing for the opt-out clause.

    BTW, if they don't defer the opt-out clause . . . . that's not real customer friendly. They don't have to but still, gotta think pushing that to August isn't a big deal.
     
  14. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
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    hustle town
     
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  15. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    This is optimistic, Feb 2021 isn't all that far away. I never would have believed the lockdowns would last till July, but they did. So who's to say it wont be the same story in February. I certainly don't blame the club for this year, but I don't know if I want to buy season tickets again if I cant use them.
     
  16. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    if you're a newshound like me this wasn't a surprise. from the very beginning they were saying it would end by July IF certain parameters were met. if they weren't met they said it would last through the end of 2020. that worst case scenario has now been pushed back until summer of 2021. so let's hope things start turning around otherwise we're FKD.
     
  17. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    Ok good, a black power fist and kneeling to start the MLS season. That should help 2021 season ticket sales
     
  18. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
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    United States
    #2694 Westside Cosmo, Jul 8, 2020
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    Somehow this entire woke ESPN thing was worse than what the NWSL did. Turned it off after a minute and went out to grab dinner. You get used to not watching sports and you realize how much you don’t need it when it comes back on and goes left wing. Soccer was already left to begin with, now it’s all woke all the time

     
  19. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    and yet you’re still here on a soccer forum
     
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  20. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    United States
    I’ll continue to point out the hypocrisy and poor business practices of the local soccer club and the idiocy of some posters, like yourself
     
  21. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    imagine committing so much time and thought to stuff that upsets/offends you
     
  22. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
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    United States
    Have you ever heard of voice texting? You certainly seem eager to respond to me
     
  23. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    #2699 CeltTexan, Jul 9, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2020
    While most of us reading get what you are digging at towards Westie, bigsoccer is an incredible place in its own way even when the topics are indeed stale, this place just keeps a man or woman coming back for seconds.. It has gone from a very underground, free roam and free insult soccer catch all, and yet a solid global insight board to a much for sanitized version of itself today. I mean I've been on bigsoccer for some time now. Two decades. It has been a wonderful ride to witness the growth of the beautiful game in our nation and this site has served as a wonderful vehicle for this trip.
    I am as well glad that I have something that I care so much about in my life. I have many friends that do well in life for themselves and yet they do not have a passion in life, certainly do not even know how much joy, and suffering of course, exists in your life from following your local pro soccer team.
     
  24. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmmm, another good outcome of the lockdowns:

    https://abc13.com/murders-in-houston-on-track-to-hit-5-year-high/6307779/

    and the hardcore NY style lockdown is not coming back - or at least won’t be effective (there is little evidence that the lockdowns change any outcome and do more harm than good to kids, economy, etc.) - because everyone knows they can’t be enforced for very long. Protests and riots let everyone know that there isn’t enough law enforcement to maintain a lockdown if people don’t want to comply. It was a one-time use item and they used it all up in March and April. There’s not enough money to fund much more of a lockdown anyway at the state level.
     

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