Corona Virus

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by Cantona's Eyebrow, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. SuperHyperVenom

    Jan 7, 2019
    @NewDadaCoach - what is your point? Of course the virus was in Europe at the same time it was in Wuhan. People fly to/from Wuhan daily. So many things made in China.

    The media is not sensationalising C-19. Don't be ignorant. The difference with C-19 and the everyday flu is that there is a vaccination, lower death rate, less hospitalisations, less severity, less long-term complications and quicker recovery with the everyday flu. But since you have access to healthcare all good - who cares about everyone else just let my kid back on the pitch so he can play. What the US media ISNT doing is showing what a mess the USA is compared to other developed countries.
     
  2. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean--my son is driving down to Richmond, VA to play soccer today. What he's NOT doing is going to a crowded restaurant, going into public buildings without a mask, or putting himself in a situation where he's in close, static proximity to other people for an extended period of time. He's driving alone, and he's going to stay outdoors at a park the whole time.

    You want your kids to play soccer? Go ahead, call some other parents & coaches and set something up. I'm pretty sure outdoor activities are extremely low-risk. But damn, even with much of the world shutting down and taking extreme measures, this thing is till killing hundreds of thousands of people--and we're still learning about the long-term health consequences for survivors. It seems a little glib to call it "over-hyped" if you don't mind me saying so.
     
  3. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You want to learn about the disease?
    Turn off the t.v.
    Go to google scholar and search
    Go to YouTube "medcram" channel
    That's a good start.
    Your welcome.
     
  4. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    The media absolutely sensationalizes. For ex, if one kid out of a million dies (very rare and probably a kid with underlying conditions) the headline will be "Kids are Dying from Coronavirus"... it's fear mongering. No, kids are not dying from Coronavirus any more than they are from shark attacks.

    The problem is that there may be catastrophic consequences from a shutdown that people are not weighing against harm caused by C19. You have to look at the whole equation.
     
  5. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    You say it is killing hundreds of thousands, but you are not looking at it with context. Millions of people die every year from various causes. Why don't we track every other cause of death in real-time. Might freak people out.
    Probably the avg num of deaths this year will be on par with prior years.
     
  6. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on, man--you know very well that people all over the world have taken drastic measures to slow the infection rate. I don't need to wear a mask in public and keep 6 feet from strangers in order to avoid getting cancer or suffering cardiac arrest.
     
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  7. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    I think it was logical initially to try drastic measures as we didn't know much about the virus. It's also good and fine to wear masks. But it's no longer ok to shut down businesses. It's causing more harm than good. Not worth it.
     
  8. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    medcram is great. Very clear, objective information.
     
  9. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    Pediatricians believe kids should be physically in school.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/us/aap-kids-physically-in-school-wellness-trnd/index.html

    They should be playing sports too. It's good for them. It's a shame so many leagues are being cancelled.

    It seems that most camps are being cancelled too. Though there is one that I know of that is happening, and get this, it's at an indoor facility. Obviously the virus is more likely to spread indoors than outdoors, yet the only camp I know of is indoors, in the summer. I don't get it. Maybe since they have more overhead they need to generate revenue.
     
  10. Hitcat

    Hitcat Member

    Chicago Fire
    Germany
    Feb 7, 2020
    #35 Hitcat, Jul 4, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 4, 2020
    Yeah obviously kids do better in school vs not. Is homeschooling bad and all those kids are dumb then? Didn't think so. Kids aren't dieing so it's ok they are crammed together? Because they live by themselves and don't have parents or grandparents they can pass it on to.
     
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  11. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    #36 NewDadaCoach, Jul 4, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 4, 2020
    Oh you didn't read the actual article and just decided to attack me huh? It's pediatricians that recommend kids be in school.


    And it's the local PRO club youth camps that are cancelled as well as other top clubs.
     
  12. Hitcat

    Hitcat Member

    Chicago Fire
    Germany
    Feb 7, 2020
    #37 Hitcat, Jul 4, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 4, 2020
    I didnt read your link because I read it a while back from the AAP. You know the ones that actually wrote it. The reason they list are based on mental health and special needs and schools that dont have an e-learning program. My children's schools all have laptops and rarely use books anymore. It wont effect their learning. Also they readily admit they dont k ow how transmission will work because the kids weren't in school during the major outbreaks. That their recommendation can and will change based on data. Our school system is giving the option for fall. parents choice either e-learning or in person, they will offer and utilize both.
    Oh no not one PRO camp. How about FCUs camps? NISL Selects camps? Sockers inter league training/games? I could list another dozen.
     
  13. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple of warnings dished out and some editing taken care of.

    Dial it back a little, everybody.
     
  14. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    My kid just turned 6. Do those camps take kids his age?
     
  15. SuperHyperVenom

    Jan 7, 2019
    #40 SuperHyperVenom, Jul 4, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 5, 2020
    @NewDadaCoach

    The C-19 problem in the US is very real - people are very stressed and a lot of people can't afford to get the virus because they need to work. If your main concern at this point in time is where to send your 6 year old to a soccer camp then good on you, but please be sensitive to others.
     
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  16. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    #41 NewDadaCoach, Jul 4, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 5, 2020
    The fact is - the camps are cancelled around here.
     
  17. SuperHyperVenom

    Jan 7, 2019
    #42 SuperHyperVenom, Jul 5, 2020
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  18. ytrs

    ytrs Member+

    Jan 24, 2018
    You can use the 'ignore' feature for posters you would rather not see on here. It is a lovely feature.
     
  19. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New Mexico is the first state to postpone high school football & soccer because of COVID-19.
     
  20. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    I heard that Big10 has cancelled all non-conference games (for football, soccer, cross country, etc).
     
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  21. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, and there are also some signs that they may just cancel the season entirely.
     
  22. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    I can't imagine big 10 football being cancelled, it's such a big revenue generator not to mention a cultural event (esp in places like Columbus, Ann Arbor, etc). That would be crazy. We'll see soon.
     
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  23. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Illinois h.s. association makes major changes to phase 4 return to play....
    I found 2 references... because of "outbreak" among high school teams and/or "increase"...
    No data or info provided...

    All of illinois restore indicators still strong.
    Did they think no one would get the virus?
    Why is there no policy thru ihsa for how schools should be monitoring and how/ when decisions to isolate, pause. Or stop programs???
    I doubt school starts or any fall sports gets played
    Florida is in focus right now.... I can't even find hospitalization rates...
    No matter your side, we the people are all being played
     
  24. PlaySimple

    PlaySimple Member

    Sep 22, 2016
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    If the average number of deaths is on par it will more than likely be due to people not being as mobile. Did you forget that people are not travelling nearly as much as they usually do? There are a lot of deaths every year from travel. Less travel = less deaths. While seasonal flu is not nearly as deadly as Covid, less people out and about = less incidences of seasonal flu = less deaths from seasonal flu. What about other communicable diseases?

    It's really not all that difficult to comprehend.
     
  25. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I do a daily COVID-19 newsletter, reviewing all the articles that are on various pre-publication servers. A Univ of Wisconsin research group just put out a paper on COVID-19 and youth soccer that might be of interest to readers. Here is the link to the abstract and full paper: "The incidence of COVID-19 among youth soccer athletes is relatively low when compared to the background incidence among children in the United States and the local general population. No relationship was identified between club COVID-19 incidence and phase of return to soccer. Youth soccer clubs universally report implementing a number of risk reduction procedures."
     
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