Alert: Covid-19 and our favorite team

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by TyffaneeSue, Mar 11, 2020.

  1. bigdumbgod

    bigdumbgod Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Who Wears the Pants in the Family?"

    Went well with the pinata at Spartan.:laugh:
     
  2. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no love for Bruce Arena, but his appearance on BSIthePodcast gave some insight into how he interacts with players, which is a lot different than how he treats regular people and media. I could see why he is a good man-manager.
     
  3. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Comparing Covid-19 between Santa Clara county and Los Angeles county.

    Population:
    LA county-10.1 million
    Santa Clara county 1.98 million
    LA county with roughly 5x the population

    Total Cases:
    LA county- 100,000+
    Santa Clara county-4,100
    Roughly 25x the number of cases in LAC

    New cases today:
    LA county 2,901
    Santa Clara County-104
    Roughly 28x the number of new cases in LAC


    Deaths:
    LA county-3,305
    Santa Clara County-155
    Roughly 21x the number of deaths in LAC

    % of those tested testing positive

    LA county-9%
    Santa Clara County-2%

    Hospitals:
    LA county
    hospitalized-2,465
    ICU patients-566
    ICU beds available-30%
    Ventilators available-68%

    Santa Clara county
    hospitalized-105 (suspected and confirmed)
    ICU patients-33
    ICU beds available-35%
    Ventilators available-83%
     
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  4. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Perhaps, but in my experience the best indication of a person's true personality is how (s)he treats those in subordinate roles, and he fails that miserably.
     
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  5. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    When I was a student, the front office staff in the career office told me that company recruiters would often observe how students treated the staff, and that if a student was rude, the recruiter would cross him off the list before the interview. (Note that the reverse is not true -- being friends with the underlings will not result in a job offer. Though it probably doesn't hurt.)
     
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  6. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, which galaxative wanker do I hate the most? The list is nearly endless.

    Cobi the half-man of course is near the top of the list.
    SquareHead Hermosillo of course. What a total wanker, and we never got compensation for that MoFo going to the filth. (Sunil is at the top of my list for worst MLS honchos.)
    Paul Caligiuri was a dick too.
    Calichman was a ahole, even when he played for us.
    Roy Myers was really good and it pissed me off that they had him. Turds.
    Victorine and Vagenas should not both have landed with the filth. That was draft manipulation by Evil MLS, and then they were both arrogant Aholes of the first order.
    Luis Hernandez was a dick.
    Califf was an ass, only slightly less of an ass when he played for us.
    El Pedito! Carlos Ruiz. What a flaming dirtbag. Diving, whining, dirty, fouling player.
    Alex Pineda Chacon, also a dick.
    Tyrowngoal Marshall was an ass too.
    Going back to the beginning, El Tanque (Hurtado) was an ass too. Good player, but mostly he just ran into people and knocked them over.
    Narcissus of course, selfish, spoiled, clueless, self-absorbed ahole. Excellent player of course, and I loved it when he played for us, but what a jerk!
    SpiceUnderwearBoy of course.
    Dema Kovalenko, a player who could have justifiably been red-carded in every game he ever played.
    Juninho was dick.
    Robbie Keane of course, cheating, self-important assbite.
    Ashely Cole, a filthy, dirty, cheating bag of crap. So notorious that MLS would not allow Wankouver to sign him, but then let the filth sign him.
    Jelle Van Damme, another vile, cheating, ankle kicking piece of dung.
    Zlatan - king ahole.

    Honestly, I'd need to watch them play a match to remember some of these guys and if they pissed me off just because they were good, or where they evil cheating wankers?

    Whatever, they all suck.

    Go Quakes!!
    Go Quakesfans!!
    FU el-lay!!!

    - Mark
     
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  7. tvromero

    tvromero Member

    Jun 2, 2018
    Updated Numbers:

    Code:
        UN    CoronaVirus (6/29)       
    Country    Population    Deaths    Per-Capita    Per 1M
    Belgium    11,482,178    9,747    0.08489%    849
    UK    67,141,684    47,730    0.07109%    711
    Spain    46,692,858    28,355    0.06073%    607
    Italy    60,627,291    34,767    0.05735%    573
    Sweden    9,971,638    5,333    0.05348%    535
    France    64,990,511    29,843    0.04592%    459
    US    327,096,265    130,122    0.03978%    398
    US - Expected    327,096,265    120,000    0.03669%    367
    Netherlands    17,059,560    6,113    0.03583%    358
    Brazil    209,469,323    59,656    0.02848%    285
    Canada    37,074,562    8,591    0.02317%    232
    Switzerland    8,525,611    1,963    0.02302%    230
    Mexico    126,190,788    27,121    0.02149%    215
    Iran    81,800,188    10,817    0.01322%    132
    Germany    83,124,418    9,052    0.01089%    109
    Turkey    82,340,088    5,131    0.00623%    62
    India    1,352,642,280    17,410    0.00129%    13
    Japan    127,202,192    972    0.00076%    8
    South Korea    51,171,706    282    0.00055%    6
    China    1,427,647,786    4,634    0.00032%    3
    
     
  8. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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  9. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great movie. Bergman was excellent.
     
  10. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Interesting. I'm glad they are at least partially measuring results and re-evaluating.

    Purely based on the news reports I'm seeing (which I realize is not conclusive of anything) I would think a good policy is to eliminate social gatherings of multiple households: church gatherings, birthday parties (or any kind of party), bars. This should be enforced as it is pretty conclusive that the disease does spread this way.

    Permit non-social gatherings (grocery stores, home depot, ...) contingent on reasonable enforcement of mask wearing and distancing. We've all seen videos of where this type of enforcement can get ugly but so far it doesn't seem to be too bad.

    The tricky ones are restaurants, parks, and beaches. These things are used safely by people staying outdoors and distancing from other households. Although these are also exactly the places where multiple households will gather to socialize. Trying to enforce anti-social behavior is going to lead to some really bad situations. It seems that Newsom's policy is to enforce non-confrontational policies such as closing parking lots. Just put a little friction in the way of people gathering. Also we don't know what the risks actually are in these situations. When I see video of people at the beach my instinct is that it actually looks pretty safe - the beach is windy and people seem to be distancing. However when I go to downtown on a Friday night it kinda looks like a big outdoor street party and my instinct is that it isn't super safe.
     
  11. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are a nation full of stupid people.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/alabama-coronavirus-parties-trnd/index.html

    I fully expect our pandemic to get much, much worse before it gets better. We're just too stupid and self-centered to manage this sort of crisis. My county has gone to phase 2 (which request should have been denied because we don't meet the criteria) and now some fair fraction of the population are acting like it's all over. No masks, no social distancing, do whatever, everything is cool now because we're in phase 2. At the same time, we're having a strong increase in the number of cases. Not so many deaths yet, and we still have plenty of hospital capacity, but this is really very, very stupid.

    Go Quakesfans!!

    - Mark
     
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  12. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This has to be fake news. Health issues aside, it defies logic because anyone could already be infected when attending the party.

    I started listening to the absolutely brilliant “Power Corrupts” podcast by Brian Klaas. He has an episode about The Godfather of Fake News, a “liberal troll” in Maine who writes many of the horrible headlining articles that are devoured and promulgated by Trump supporters. The troll insists it is “satire” and refuses to admit he is feeding the flames of the far right. Fake news is an industry that Facebook has spawned, where we end up not being able to trust any media.
     
  13. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    My son and I were just looking at the copy of the schedule I'd stuck on my computer -- highlighting away games I'd hoped to attend in person. We're almost 2/3 through the season! He said, just think, we'd probably already be out of playoff contention. I guess the fact that we're not is one positive outcome?
     
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  14. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    #3390 Beerking, Jul 8, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2020
    Total population of the US - 331,100,000
    Total number of cases - 2,930,000
    Total number of deaths - 1,300,000
    Total number recovering - 2,800,000

    At only a .0392630% death rate, I like my odds.
     
  15. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    1) Not just deaths -- the lingering illnesses that affect many, including healthy young people. For ex, this young doctor: https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/08/my-covid-19-symptoms-lasted-100-plus-days/

    2) The morbidity/mortality numbers (by the way, that's 130,000 deaths -- slightly less than 1,300,000) are low because a lot of people have not been at work/school and thus the R(0) has been suppressed. Those numbers are going way up.

    3)
    Actually 5% death rate for those who test positive. And that's not counting the thousands who have not recovered after months of illness. Not great odds at all, unless you're a hermit without any contact with others

    Wear a mask. Social distance. My family has been SIP for four months as of this week. Our country would look more like Europe if people had taken this seriously. Instead, the infection rate is increasing. If any of you ever want to go to an Earthquakes game again, these kinds of numbers should matter to you.
     
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  16. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On Monday, there were about 15 boys + 4 coaches at the local high school, running a practice. They were just warming up when I left, but I assume it was football. I didn't realize youth sports were starting back up in San Mateo County...
     
  17. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    95% survival rates are still damn good odds.
     
  18. tvromero

    tvromero Member

    Jun 2, 2018
    Do you realize that in the US each year we lose about 2.5M to ALL causes of death, that includes cancer, drugs, drunk driving, heart attacks, gun violence and so forth. This 2.5M is 0.75% of the population. Basically if you know 100 people then only 3 of them will die in the next 4 years. If we get to a 5% death rate then you will attend 5 funerals every year for your 100 friends which is a 625% increase in deaths.
     
  19. tvromero

    tvromero Member

    Jun 2, 2018
    Updated data

    Code:
        UN    CoronaVirus (7/6)       
    Country    Population    Deaths    Per-Capita    Per 1M
    Belgium    11,482,178    9,771    0.08510%    851
    UK    67,141,684    44,236    0.06588%    659
    Spain    46,692,858    28,388    0.06080%    608
    Italy    60,627,291    34,869    0.05751%    575
    Sweden    9,971,638    5,470    0.05486%    549
    France    64,990,511    29,920    0.04604%    460
    US    327,096,265    132,979    0.04065%    407
    US - Expected    327,096,265    120,000    0.03669%    367
    Netherlands    17,059,560    6,182    0.03624%    362
    Brazil    209,469,323    65,556    0.03130%    313
    Mexico    126,190,788    30,639    0.02428%    243
    Canada    37,074,562    8,693    0.02345%    234
    Switzerland    8,525,611    1,965    0.02305%    230
    Iran    81,800,188    11,731    0.01434%    143
    Germany    83,124,418    9,092    0.01094%    109
    Turkey    82,340,088    5,241    0.00637%    64
    India    1,352,642,280    20,174    0.00149%    15
    Japan    127,202,192    977    0.00077%    8
    South Korea    51,171,706    284    0.00055%    6
    China    1,427,647,786    4,634    0.00032%    3
    
     
  20. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

    However folks who survive are finding that the longer-term situation can be quite challenging, with a lot of continuing symptoms, compared to a normal flu, because this also affects cerebral and vascular processes. It may not kill you, but it may make your life miserable. I know several people who - months after recovery - are still experiencing major health and mental issues - including one in her 20s...

    https://www.pulmonologyadvisor.com/...d5bd167d86262b629368&mpweb=1323-98539-2604830
     
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  21. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    I have severe allergy symptoms that already make my life miserable so I have a preview of it. ;)
     
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  22. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, you if anyone, know it's nothing to sneeze at.




    :eek::D
     
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  23. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    that sucks! My wife gets shots for that, and still suffers.
     
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  24. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Booo! :D
     

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