News: The rebuild goes on... - The summer 2020 transfer thread

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  1. MizzouMUFC

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    #351 MizzouMUFC, Jun 30, 2020
    If we really think 50 mil for Sancho is even in the ballpark than we're incompetent. Even if this is a negotiation strat, what are we hoping to accomplish? Piss off Dortmund?
     
  2. Red Jeph

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    #352 Red Jeph, Jun 30, 2020
    Sky didn’t even bother with a byline, it’s a a garbage article.
     
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  3. Naboomagnoli

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    #353 Naboomagnoli, Jun 30, 2020
    There are no names attached to it. It's spitefully bad trolling.
     
  4. benni...

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    #354 benni..., Jun 30, 2020
    Sounds like our problems from pqst windows though. Low balling lol
     
  5. Ashur

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    #355 Ashur, Jun 30, 2020
    Grealish for 70-80mil makes even less sense when VdB is readily available for 40-50mil tops. If they were priced around the same, would still go personally for VdB but at the very least, there is a basis for a valid discussion between who the club wants to go for.
    As it stands, it's clear cut as it comes.
     
  6. Ofori

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    #356 Ofori, Jun 30, 2020
    If you think you can offer low ball money for Sancho, he won't go for it and I am sure Dortmund won't go for it either
     
  7. johno

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    #357 johno, Jun 30, 2020
    I think it is tactical and it does manke sense. If they ask for 100M and we say sure, they'll come back and ask for 150. They don't actually want to sell him.

    If we say we aren't willing to pay over 50 they will be under no illusions that high 3 figures is possible.

    My guestimation is that we'll eventually get the deal done. If we don't, its because he's staying at Dortmund.
     
  8. Ashur

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    #358 Ashur, Jun 30, 2020

    Have to say it would be intriguing to see what he could become under Pep's tutelage.
    Good player but he's not worth the figures that are currently being quoted about him. English tax kicking in at full effect...
     
  9. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    #359 Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10, Jun 30, 2020
    with emphasis on eventually. hopefully it does get done
     
  10. Ashur

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    #360 Ashur, Jun 30, 2020
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    Dortmund want to pretend they're in charge of the proceedings when they're really not. They're all bullish about how they won't take anything less than full freight for him. But Sancho hasn't even started playing his part. He's got 2 years left in his current contract and has made it clear all season long that he wants to leave+will not sign a new deal. Dortmund may want to hold out for another year but they'll lose money next year when they'll probably have to sell him at a discount when he'll enter the final year of his current deal.
    On top of that once Sancho himself will start making noise about wanting out, their position will be even further weakened. He surely knows that United are ready to give him personally big wages and make him a central part of the team both on and off the pitch. Those are some of the reasons why this will not be a quick deal.
    The only way Dortmund can hope to regain some real control and power is if at least one club other than United steps up and shows concrete interest in him. Until then, most of what comes from them is posturing. This is textbook stuff on their part: seen it time and again with many of their players in recent years.
    This is still very much our deal to mess up but there is no doubt that Woodward and Judge will play the long game. We won't get him on the cheap but don't see us paying anywhere near what they want now (well in excess of 100mil Ps)     ​
     
  11. MizzouMUFC

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    #361 MizzouMUFC, Jun 30, 2020
    It's hugely important to don't screw up this Sancho transfer. It's rare we get a free run at a potentially top 5 talent in the world. We're a few moves away from starting to compete again. We can't afford to be stagnant.
     
  12. Ofori

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    #362 Ofori, Jun 30, 2020
    Or Manchester United can always buy Partey
     
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  13. Rooney20

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    #363 Rooney20, Jun 30, 2020
    Who needs Sancho when we have Greenwood ;)
     
  14. MizzouMUFC

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    #364 MizzouMUFC, Jun 30, 2020
    Haha, we need him...badly.
     
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  15. Anonymous_United

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    #365 Anonymous_United, Jun 30, 2020
    This is exactly what i meant, if we ******** up with Dortmund we will end up paying ridiculous money for a below top tier player.
     
  16. Ofori

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    #366 Ofori, Jul 1, 2020
    Thomas Partey to replace Pogba and then you can also bring in Jack Grealish to also anchor the midfield
     
  17. giggs88

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    #367 giggs88, Jul 1, 2020
    Does anyone really think we will complete a good deal this summer? I'm inclined to believe we won't.
     
  18. Futbol_Head

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    #368 Futbol_Head, Jul 1, 2020
    If we get CL anything is possible... One step at a time though.
     
  19. Diable Rouge

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    #369 Diable Rouge, Jul 1, 2020
    haven't seen enough of declan rice but could he be our long term solution at the no 6 spot? how press resistant is he?
     
  20. Ashur

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    #370 Ashur, Jul 1, 2020
    In regards to his development, Rice stagnated a bit earlier in the season, but he appeared to have shown some good form as of late.
    He would be an alternative in our search for a 6, IF he wasn't so expensive (no way should we pay 70mil Ps for him) AND if other options are no longer available to us (they're cheaper to boot).
    Instead of paying 70 for him, I'd rather see the club add another 10-15, even 20mil and go after Ndidi, who is a far superior option than Rice (and still just 23 himself).
     
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  21. Rooney20

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    #371 Rooney20, Jul 1, 2020
    No excuses not to get Sancho. Hope we don’t drag this out like we did with AWB and Bruno.

     
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    #372 benni..., Jul 1, 2020
    1.Not in my opinion
    2. Not press resistant at all.
     
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  23. MizzouMUFC

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    #373 MizzouMUFC, Jul 1, 2020
    Hell no. I'd take Fred or McT over Rice.
     
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  24. johno

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    #374 johno, Jul 3, 2020
    Fred yes, McTominay? Not so much. I don't expect either of them to be good enough long term. That said, I have no hope of McTominay being anything other than a squaddie unless he has a huge leap somewhere. Rice is different. He may benefit from a change of scenery and the lack of focus on him, given the weapons around him. He has to work on press resistance and improve his passing range. He does a lot of things well, but I think the money he would cost could be much better spent snatching up someone from Germany or Spain.
     
  25. MizzouMUFC

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    #375 MizzouMUFC, Jul 3, 2020
    Its not that I rate Fred or McT that high, its that I think Rice is average. There are so many better CDMs available for way cheaper than Rice.
     
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