Transfer Thread 2020/2021

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  1. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Lampard is doing an excellent job at Chelsea. They play the best enjoyable football in the league and have bled many youngsters.

    As for Dortmund they had a squad to compete with Bayern this year. Last year they were no where near, but no excuse with this squad.

    It's not just the league, but the manner of performance and CL as well.
     
  2. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Dortmund's time will come maybe next year
     
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  3. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Was Dortmund performance in the CL worse than Chelsea's performance

    Chelsea is averaging 1.7points per game in the league
     
  4. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It will not if Dortmund loses Sancho and Hakimi 2 of their best players

    While Bayern strengthen with Sane.

    Dortmund is having to go through almost a yearly rebuild while the rival consolidate
     
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  5. BvB_Peon

    BvB_Peon Member

    Apr 14, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Not with this coach it won't. Expect a copy and paste of this year. No rotation, lose against Bayern, Lose points to relegation teams, finish 10+ points behind, quick exit in Pokal and CL but finish top 4 and board is happy... More players want to leave due to lack of ambition or play time, we replace them with young talent and repeat the whole cycle...
     
  6. BvB_Peon

    BvB_Peon Member

    Apr 14, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Exactly! And when a coach needs to be replace, they have the guts to do it! Fortune favors the brave.
     
  7. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The big issue here is that Bayern were weaker then usual last season and at the start of this season, whereas Dortmund didn't lose any key players last summer and having finished just 2 points behind invested pretty well in the squad. And yet despite that got nowhere near a trophy this season. It was a golden opportunity missed, and a lot of the blame for that lies with Favre. Win a trophy or two (which was possible with this squad) and keeping key players becomes easier.

    Now Bayern are getting stronger again and Dortmund are going backwards.
     
  8. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    You miss the point. Chelsea had a very weak squad this year and exceptionally low expectations. Chelsea fans were hoping to just make top 7 and some had accepted anything in the top half.

    Lampard instead had them playing fantastic attacking football, the most entertaining in the league, looks set to finish in the top 4, had a good cup run and made it out of the CL group.

    With the improvements to the squad next year he will be expected to be close to Liverpool.


    As I STARTED out by saying, Dortmund have a far better team and squad than Dortmund. Favre is to blame for this squad greatly underachieving.
     
  9. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Since Flick took over Bayern has been on a run barely losing in all competitions. Bayern second half of the season is the best in club history just 1 draw. The only way anyone betters that is to win every game.
    Under Kovac last season was Dortmund best chance when they blew a 9points lead to a weak Kovac.

    Firing Favre is the first step then keep your players for next season
     
  10. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    I don't think you get it.

    Firing Favre is independent of Bayern. It's about the way Favre has performed, his inept performances in the big games an his terrible style. His failure to develop players.

    It's like many Bayern fans wanted to fire Kovac even after the double last year.

    I wanted Favre fired last season and I actually thinkFavre (mostly due to Reus), actually performed far above expectations last year overall.
     
  11. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    https://bvbbuzz.com/2020/06/28/borussia-dortmund-watzke-backs-favre/


    In an interview with Sport1, Watzke said: “Lucien (Favre) has twice helped us finish as runners-up, and still has a contract. I know the prejudices that exist in the media. He can now put an end to those prejudices next year, he deserves the chance.”

    What prejudice? Most fans just wanna see the team playing to it's potential.

    “Every coach in the world would have lost the game against Hoffenheim, it was clearly because of the team. In Leipzig it was the same coach. And we had one of our best matches in the last few years.”

    So the coach has absolutely no influence on the team? It is down solely to the players to perform and motivate themselves? Not every coach in the world would have allowed a culture to exist at a club where standards are allowed to drop to such an extent, in any game.

    “When you win, the mentality is always right. All week I read what a great mentality we had in Leipzig. The attitude was not right on Saturday, there is no question about it. That was a non-performance.”

    But surely the Leipzig performance, if nothing else, shows the potential of the team. So why such a poor attitude/terrible performances v Mainz and Hoffenheim?
     
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  12. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    I think Favre is a little over his own head to b honest. I like the fact that he tinkers, but find that it is always a little too late, and there is a tendency not to rotate, which I dislike entirely. It makes the present 11 complacent, and does not give any bench players anything to aspire to. The last game was a throw away ... y not field a younger team, Raschl, Fuehr (or whatever his name is), Balerdi should have started, Dahoud too. Play around and see what might stick going into the new season.

    i think the problem with Favre is that he lacks confidence in his own abilities, which leads him to not experiment when he ought to, allowing a drudgery to set into the team out of sheer repetition. Chaos when applied in the right context can b a benign disruptor of sorts. Hakimi is leaving, y not revert to the 4-3-3 ... it is pretty obvious for anyone with half an eye to see that it is potentially a far superior formation given the players at his disposal. If not, then at the very least it is a inculcated Plan B in that it keeps the opposition guessing and an exercise in deviation. U don't bash u're head through a wall and expect it to turn into a door ffs !!

    I think in another life, had the Favre appointment come a little earlier, that he would have been a tremendous fit, but as things stand ... I think he has lost the spark that he had at Monchenglaadbach. A dunning Kruger of sorts.
     
  13. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This poster laid out my points clearly

     
  14. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    I wonder if Dortmund don't just buy someone themselves especially with the moves Bayern are making
     
  15. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. BvB_Peon

    BvB_Peon Member

    Apr 14, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    With Favre staying we already lost the title next season... So I'm not sure we need to spend money on players this year.
     
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  17. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Perfect move
     
  18. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    BELLINGHAM ON VERGE OF JOINING DORTMUND

    Borussia Dortmund are on the verge of agreeing a five-year deal to sign Birmingham City’s Jude Bellingham.

    The Bundesliga club have courted the midfielder, who turned 17 last week, for more than two years amid stiff competition from most of Europe’s top teams, including Chelsea, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and most notably Man United.

    For now, no deal has been signed, but Dortmund believe they have broad agreement on all key issues and have secured the services of one of Europe’s most exciting talents.

    Although Bellingham has not signed a professional contract with City, it’s understood they will receive a transfer fee in excess of the £21m which has been reported this morning.



    Ole Gunnar Solskjaer will be disappointed to have missed out on the highly talented box-to-box midfielder. United pulled out all the stops, offering him a tour of their training ground with Sir Alex Ferguson.
     
  19. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Can play CM or W. Lots of potential, will gradually be integrated during the season I expect.

    If Sancho stays he could be useful in helping him settle in.
     
  20. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    Honestly we need a couple of players to compete with Bayern.. I would rather sell Sancho since he wants out and get those players to help.

    Quite a few holes to plug that are bigger than Sancho
     
  21. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    If you can keep both then that's even better
     
  22. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #1672 Alex C, Jul 3, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2020
    The problem with Sancho is that despite what some media (and Watzke) have said, Dortmund do not hold all the cards.

    This time next year he will have only 1 year left, at which point clubs like Man Utd will probably be happy to wait another year and pick him up for free rather then paying the €120 or so Dortmund want. So the choice will then be to sell him for below market value or risk losing him for nothing.

    The ideal would be to extend, and then probably sell him next year when there should be more buyers on the market.
     
  23. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    I would bring Rakitic, 15M for that kind of player is a bargain..
    I know he is 32, but he has better vision and techique than all our midfield.
    He can play 1-2 season on high level for sure.

    Barca is tearing inside, thr atmosfhere there is chaotic and there are some players you could def bring, especially Rakitic..
     
  24. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Imagine our midfield in formation 4-3-3

    Can
    Rakitic Brandt


    You have Can, that "filthy" agressive player as DM like Vidal..
    And in front of him plenty of creativity and excellent techique and vision Brandt and Rakitic.
    I know the problem would be cause he played 4 years for Schalke..
    But amazing midfield, for sure top 8 or 10 midfields in the world
     
  25. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rakitic is old and washed, not to mention expensive. I understand he provides some necessary qualities in theory and might be welcomed in the locker room among the Swiss contingent, but I would rather give Dahoud a run or bring in a younger body.
     

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