Little better but not quite there - 2020 Summer Transfer Thread

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  1. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Yeah from an offensive POV I can see why Luiz might be considered at DM, but from a defensive POV I don't see why he'd be much less of a liability up there. Couldn't he still get isolated, out of position, do stupid stuff, etc?
     
  2. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    I'm not morally opposed to working with a super agent like Joorabchian if it ultimately helps the club. But right now, it seems like a one-way street. Arsenal gives lots of money to Kia and his clients with nothing in return. Is he playing Raul, or is there a long term plan to direct some young talent to the club despite interest from other big boys? (maybe Pepe fits that profile but he wasn't cheap and I don't recall other big clubs being heavily involved)

    My thought with Cedric is maybe he took 60k a week for 4 years rather than 80k a week for 2 years. That could make sense, but we never hear the details on these things.
     
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  3. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Arsenal FC
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    England
    Luiz offers nothing as a cb unless U play 3

    He is ok at winning the ball and spraying it

    he can also drop between the other 2 and it means we can try the 2 8’s that arteta seems to want

    if rather he played dm than cb in a 2
     
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  4. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Sounds plausible but do the stats back that up, especially at his Chelsea career, if they played him more that way than we have?

    I do realize I may be asking the wrong guy about stats. ;) So maybe others can help out.
     
  5. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Clive Palmer on the Arsecast today mentioned Joelson Fernandes - a 17 yo left winger from Sporting in Portugal - as a Joorabchian client that could be Arsenal's reward for playing the super agent game.
     
  6. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
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    i've never understand playing luiz in anything BUT a back 3.
     
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  7. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Not a bad start but there better be several others to follow (especially DF & MF) for the cash he's made of the Luiz deal alone.

     
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  8. cooper7d7

    cooper7d7 Member+

    Feb 7, 2001
    CT
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    Is this why Saka hasn't been signed?
     
  9. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    A player who would be a really good fit, a really good asset to this squad:

    Canadian international...Jonathan David...of Gent and it has been said that Arsenal have shown interest in this kid
     
  10. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I keep reading that his extension is almost complete. Highly doubt WE would be stalling on his extension because of the possibility of signing a promising 17 yo.
     
  11. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
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    Getting the occasional potential wonderkid won't mean much if it costs the team regular European football. Arsenal may be a big club but unlike other leagues there are more than 2 such clubs in the Prem.

    The goal should be sustainable trophy challenges, not scrounging in hopes of a possible Haaland that would be sold after a couple years.
     
  12. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Arsenal need to do a lot to inspire confidence
     
  13. Shen-O

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    already like him more than Kluivert
     
  14. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Justin Kluivert though would be a pretty good steal for Arsenal
     
  15. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Several publications running with a report that Partey's agent is due in London this weekend to finalize a deal.
     
  16. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    I love this personally especially as a Ghanaian
     
  17. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    Ted said he wouldn't sign Partey on a free so I'm not optimistic.
     
  18. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Arsenal FC
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    England
    Get off teds knutts-son
     
  19. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    C'mon, I can't be the only one to rep that. It's genuinely clever and funny.
     
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  20. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    It's funny but he's right about lots of stuff
     
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  21. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Arsenal FC
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    England
    I k ow, but people live in his arse here

    I like the guy but he’s not a prophet
     
  22. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    He's all we got though. I can't think of a real analyst in any sport that interacts with the public the way StatsBomb does and Ted does. It's a little like Bill James in the 80s and 90s. Nobody really on the inside will tell us what's going on so we gotta take what we can get.

    I would love to know what his work says compared to StatDNA, for example.
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Whats cool about Ted is he gives you at least one consistent basis to compare players via the radars

    IMO he has been pretty correct on one aspect which is clubs routinely overpay ... look at Arsenal on Pepe
     
  24. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    England
    Well Pepe is in a shot squad and played under an awful coach until arteta

    when we see more isolation on lbs (bellerin is playing cm at times) he will shine
     
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  25. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
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    i assuming people were just thrown off because it was funny as is.

    and people were trying to figure out what bigman MEANT to say. :-D
     
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