They Needed a Minivan but Got a Gio: Reyna at Nottingham Forest (Olf Borussia Dortmund)

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  1. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    great match for Gio. Started slow and made some mistakes early on but just got stronger and better as the game went on ... he was not just playing off mid ... he came back quite a bit and got stuck in. Yes the assist was great .... what was apparent to me as the game went on was Gio's potential (17 years old) compared to Thorsten Hazard's current performance .... the future is so bright for Gio at Dortmund. You just cannot coach size and speed - he has a wonderful touch and he can handle the physicality ... watching him glide through the midfield reminds me so much of his old man.
     
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  2. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    I think it's interesting that one of the biggest criticisms of him with the YNTs was that he was a selfish player. Looks like BVB is working to fix that and rounding him into a team player. He's been a willing defender and plays the smart passes
     
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  3. Konut

    Konut Member+

    May 31, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, players change with age and coaching. It could also be that Dortmund is the first team he’s played with that he “feels” the players around him are equally or more competent than himself.
     
  4. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    He looks the exact opposite of selfish honestly.... almost nagbe like (jk jk)
     
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    I will say that when dribbled around a triple team down the left flank I got annoyed but then he completely got by all of them passed the ball back and kept possession. Clearly he doesnt lack confidence.

    He did have some issues tracking back early on but seemed to be better 2nd half in that regard. I would give him an A. Would be an A+ if he had scored himself.
     
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  7. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Far from an every touch btw. Looked like a deer in the headlights the first 30 before the assist. That built some confidence. Then he looked good when he could put the effort in. But played in spurts because appears to lack starter's stamina right now. A performance to build on.
     
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  8. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve gotta remember that he’s only 17 when I’m watching him play.

    The nit picky stuff such as showing for the ball, but not being hyper focused to receive and not finishing a run (such as at the 74’ minute I think?) are just young player things that I know he’ll fix. What an exciting player he may become!
     
  9. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I had been under the impression that all these videos were "every touch." I'm probably going to have to adjust the way I view these now.
     
  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Sanjiv's typically are, but Watke's aren't. They're selected clips that can be positive or negative. A lot of them are 2 minutes for starts. If they were every touches they'd be really uninvolved.
     
  11. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love that he and Haaland seem to have some real chemistry on the field for BVB. I just wish that he had corralled that first touch in the box on the pass from Haaland. That was a really good run to put himself in that position, so with experience he'll get there.
     
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  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The American Dream: Giovanni Reyna at Borussia Dortmund
     
  13. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
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  14. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah or maybe it is great evidence of how pathetic national team coaching is in the US setup. AND how greatly different the same player can look under dfferent systems/coaches....kinda makes you wonder just how muhc you can take away from how player x looks on a given team in terms of how they might look in a different setup....I think the impact of system/team/coach on player production is VASTLY underestimated around these parts,
     
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  15. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    It’s more likely an example of what the difference in the quality of players between the USMNT and BVB is.
     
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  16. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    You nailed it.

    He had trouble finding the game and his space on the field for the first 20 minutes, but got on track and contributed before petering out about 60 minutes into his run out.

    There’s obviously a problem with match fitness and rhythm, but his slick assist was the game winner and at 17 years old, he doesn’t look a bit out of place.

    In my opinion, Gio has the highest ceiling of any American player ever. Put Dempseys grit in that kid and he’s a generational regular at Madrid or Barca.
     
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  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Not bad at all for a first start.
     
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  18. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Twitters 2+ minute video rule is the reason for the consolation. Watke and Sanjiv both show good and bad in them fairly.
     
  19. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Small consolation?

    It's all good.
     
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  20. hype25

    hype25 Member

    Jul 17, 2016
    Rumors that Dortmund have reached an agreement with PSG for Thomas Meunier.
     
  21. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quality player, good for squad depth at this level too.
     
  22. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    I know they were hopeful of retaining Hakimi longer but that might not be very likely

    But Madrid is allowing Odegaard to stay at Real Sociedad another year so maybe Dortmund still has some hope
     
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  23. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BVB is also set to beat a host of clubs to sign Birmingham City's, soon-to-be 17 year old phenom, Jude Bellingham. He's a dynamic two-way midfielder that burst onto the scene in the Championship. Bellingham's drawn comparisons to a young Stevie G. To me he plays little like hybrid of Stevie G and Patrick Vieira and will supposedly be a record signing for Dortmund. Nonetheless, another exciting and ready-to-play youngster for Dortmund. A midfield with Reyna and Bellingham could be something special in a year or two.
     
  24. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    I actually thought Bellingham would be a Sancho to Reyna’s Pulisic.

    be interested to see how BVB develops him
     
  25. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't forget that:

    a) Sancho's departure is no longer certain
    b) Moukoko will be pushing for minutes at forward as well

    I am interested to see if they start using Gio more like Brandt... playing him up top in some situations and at holding midfield in others.
     

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