Transfer Thread 2020/2021

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  1. Jiri Havran

    Jiri Havran Member

    Apr 8, 2016
    Oslo
    Club:
    Shanxi Baorong
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Trophies winning teams are more attractive for young talents.
    And they get many of them for free
     
  2. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Well our season is pretty much over now. Two games left.

    The most important thing is we sack Favre and bring in a proper coach.

    However, we should also be realistic.

    Sancho and Hakimi are both likely to leave. Possibly Akanji and Dahoud as well.


    We need to replace LP, and Delaney as well.

    For next season

    Hummels, Zagadou, Can, Raphael, Haaland and Reus are players that must start.

    I think we should throw in our hat for Havertz. We will have the money, with Sancho leaving and we can make a spot for him.

    We also need a right back.

    Reyna should get a bigger role and together with Hazard, should replace Sancho

    ------Burki (not really good enough)
    ???--------Hummels(had an excellent season)----Zagadou(good when returned and has potential)-------Raphael (goood)
    --------------------Can (been very good, has been tired but to be expected)
    -----Brandt---------------------???
    Hazard/Reyna------------------------Reus
    ----------------------Haaland

    I would like for us to line up like that for next season.
     
  3. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Meunier is our new RB, that transfer is done
     
  4. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Reyna when explode, will be gone in the next 2 seasons, we all know that..
    I wish we stop being a stepping stone, its hard to be a fan of that kind of club.. More and more tougher every year
     
  5. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    A decent free transfer. We still possibly need a CB, a world class Sancho replacment too.
    Not really hard to support a club like that at all.

    However, the aim should be to stop being such a club.

    I dare say we should try and poach Nagelsmann. Leipzig are losing a lot of quality players, Bayern aren't going for him, United aren't going for him. It's the perfect time to try and steal him. He must be very angry that Werner won't even be forced to stay for the CL run.
     
  6. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    I agree about Nagelsmann, or Id love the American coach Marsch at RB Salzburg but that would take some interworkings that prolly wouldnt happen either...

    Losing out on the Touassi to Bayern sucks because we have some spots free and they dont. That kid will be World Class. If Bayern start sucking up the younger kids too, then that defeats our whole "build them up and sell them" routine.

    Priority to me is another striker. Clearly Haaland wont be around after next year. Id like to see a large purchase made if Sancho is sold. Something or someone worthwhile too.
     
  7. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    It might be worth going for Nagelsmann and then Marsch can get the move up. I don't know much about Marsch. I am assuming you know more, but I was impressed with what I saw from Salzburg in the CL.

    It could work getting Nagelsmann and then Marsch gets a promotion.
    Yes, but nothing can be done. We need to focus on us. This year is one of the most disappointing, because we had a team as good as Bayern. A team, who might win the treble. Favre really blew this season.
    Moukoko will be 17 in a couple of seasons, so maybe he will be knocking on the door.

    I think the focus should always be to strengthen the first team.


    Leipzig and Bayern doing so well in the CL, shows just how good the squad was this year, but let down by a poor manager.

    Sancho will be a very difficult player to replace.
     
  8. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I'd gladly take Nagelsmann but Leipzig also had a very underwhelming second half of the season. We'd likely call for him to get sacked if our club similarly underperformed like that with him. But there is no doubt I'd trust him more than Favre.

    Generally, I also think that Sancho's immense production in combination with Reus' and Paco's great form last season saved Favre's job for so long. They made us win games we wouldn't have won otherwise. We should do everything we can to keep/extend Sancho.
    The addition of Brandt and Hummels should have greatly improved the performance. But too often, the team seemed clueless. Taking just the last two games, did we look like a team with a gamplan, a machine where all the parts worked together? Yesterday, Hummels criticized the attitude during the game. That's one of the advantages of the missing crowd. But I think it's more than just not caring or having one bad day.
     
  9. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    I agree that we need first team help. Im just not sure where we go with it. Clearly Hakimi, Schulz, Sancho and Delaney should all be replaced.

    I know we love the world class ability of Sancho but his body language always frustrates me.There is just something about him that irks me. Im sure its because of his being a dang young player that I see his attitude more as problematic.

    But in truth Haaland has the same pouting ways too when he isnt getting service he wants. Younger players have a hard time involving themselves in the matches when they arent getting touches they want. Older players find ways to involve themselves on the pitch and in the offense without the ball a lot more. I know that is experience. Im probably just rambling on because Im still salty over that dreadful show yesterday though.....
     
  10. Jiri Havran

    Jiri Havran Member

    Apr 8, 2016
    Oslo
    Club:
    Shanxi Baorong
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Moukoko will turn 16 in November 20th and can play in BL, but we need a back up striker anyway
     
  11. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    I meant the season after. Haaland will probably stay for next season at least, so when Haaland leaves Moukoko should be close to 17.
     
  12. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Sancho had one of his worst ever games for us yesterday. If he's mad about it, good. As long as he learns his lessons (one of them being substance over style) and isn't an ahole towards his mates or the staff, he can show some attitude. Especially when he's involved in 30+ goal per season. I prefer that to Hakimi being all smiles with the Mainz players when we are down which is an otherwise very likeable attitude of him.
    It's one of the things I liked about Morey yesterday. He and Hummels at least looked and acted if they weren't ok with losing against a side that is fighting relegation.
     
  13. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Akanji is staying, his recent performance has quieted any talk of an uncertain future and none of the Dortmund reporters have insinuated a possible move.

    Meunier is one of those transfers that gets people complaining but I won’t be surprised if he turns out to be quite good, like Can. Experience is good, but I think Morey will see plenty of action next year.

    Ideally we would have a keeper taking over for (or at least pushing) Bürki, who is kind of like Favre - likable, Swiss, excellent at times - but decidedly not world class. Roman is extending, but Zorc really should be working on something here.

    An experienced, productive center forward is really crucial. Hopefully one with a well-rounded game and sturdier than Paco.

    Central midfield is alright, especially if Dahoud sticks around and builds on his recent promise. They all bring value, including Delaney and Brandt when he drops back.

    The rest of the attack kind of hinges on whether Reus can stay fit. Otherwise it should be productive even if Sancho leaves, but I would welcome a shrewd acquisition (and avoid the Schürrle/Yarmolenko mistakes!). Hazard was a great story from the season - super valuable combination of hard work, goals, and assists.

    I hate to resort to the lazy “championship DNA” trope but feel there’s something to be said for it here. One more player with a track record of winning, who fills a key position on the field and ideally leadership qualities....or indeed the coach would be that piece. Getting Hummels and Can was an important step in this direction.
     
  14. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    #1589 eaglespark, Jun 18, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2020
    I like Dahoud and he has been wasted by mid table managers, afraid to play technical football.

    I would love to see a Dahoud/Can/Brandt midfield. Witsel and Delaney are not good enough at the highest level and get found out against any top team.

    However, losing Sancho is a big blow and we need a world class attacking player to replace him. Now ideally it would be another winger, but getting Sane is impossible. So if we can buy Havertz then we need to do everything possible to get him.

    At the moment the team next year lacks star quality in attack. It's going to be a lot worse than this year, even if we have a better manager.
     
  15. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    Sell Sancho for 130M
    Sell Schulz for 10-15M
    Sell Delaney or Dahoud for 10M
    Gotze is gone, big pump for fees

    150-160M total

    Bring GK Livakovic, Croatian nb 1 Gk for 10-12M
    Bring CB Tah for 30-35M
    Bring LB Tagliafico Ajax for 25-35M
    Bring AMF Neres Ajax for 40M
    Bring FC Bruno Petkovic, Croatian and Dinamo Zg beast for 15M

    120- 130M total
     
  16. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019






    This guy had a very strange career so far, he was almost a no name till his 25, i would compare his career to Dado Prso.
    He exploded quite late..
    Guy is a f beast, so strong on the foot, i think even stronger tham Haaland and he has better vision than him, a very intelligent player. The best part is he would cost no more than 15M and i assure you he is better than 80% strikers in BuLi..
    He would be excellent as a backup striker or a starter against team like Paderborn, Fortuna..
     
  17. Jiri Havran

    Jiri Havran Member

    Apr 8, 2016
    Oslo
    Club:
    Shanxi Baorong
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I think 10-15m times for top talents has passed long ago. But even 20-25m wouldn’t be so bad for the GK and striker. Not sure about Tah, would prefer an unproven and cheaper CB, like the one yesterday.
    We have to get more for Delaney or Dahoud, around 20
     
  18. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Petkovic looks pretty good. Was top scorer in Croatia's Euro qualifying group. Was previously in Italy I believe?

    Dahoud is worth more then €10m, still has potential to be a very good player. Delaney is a useful relatively cheap back up.
     
  19. Oliseh

    Oliseh Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Croatia
    Nov 29, 2019
    He score one beauty also against Hungary last year.
    He is 27,not so young so he wouldnt be so expensive, i would say he is like white version of Lukaku, but with much better techique and vision..
    I dont see a player in range 15M for that kind of quality in BuLi to be honest
     
  20. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How much would Torunarigha cost? Lots of potential imo.
     
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  21. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    Sancho is certainly destabilized by the transfer talk. Yet, I still believe that him leaving is not a forgone conclusion.

    I've been reading/watching a bit about Nagelsmann yesterday. Seems like the perfect fit. Although I wouldn't mind Pochettino either.

    A coach and a backup striker and we're pretty much set to go against Bayern's current squad. But of course they'll bring in some quality, so we need to try to match that.
     
  22. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    I don't know why everyone is pushing the need to replace Burki next season...why?? Of all our priorities, he should be at the bottom so why waste money on a keeper at this point when he is more than good enough. To me, he is in the running of being top 3 keepers in the BL along side Neuer, Sommer, and Gulasci. In a couple years, yeah sure I would invest into a new keeper but not now as RB, CB, back-up striker and CM depth are much more important.

    We do not have unlimited funds to spend during one transfer period so it will have to be smart transfers. We always seem to forget that if Sancho is sold for 150M, the club will maybe receive 80-90M after all taxes and agent fees are deducted so that's a big difference when it comes to transfer planning.

    I do like the Meunier free transfer as he can play, both, a classical RB in a back four as well as a wing back but, more importantly, he essentially just swaps spots with Gotze in terms of wage structure where hopefully his wages are much lower than Gotze's but there is certainly a nice signing bonus involved as well as is the norm with most free transfers. Together with LP still signed for next season and Morey getting more game time next season, the RB spot is fine going into next season.

    The CB spot will need another infusion of youth espcially considering the DAZ is signed for two more season and hoefully we can re-up with him next year but we need insurance in case he decides to leave as well. Like I stated yesterday, Moussa Niakhate from Mainz should be a target as he is a young, athletic, and smart CB that can be utilized in multiple formations on the back line and should not be very expensive either. This is where the money that many have earmarked for a Burki replacement should go to.

    Lastly, with Bayern seemingly all in on Sane and not on Havertz, this would be the ideal situation for Dortmund to finally show their fans that they are indeed serious about competing for titles and go all in on him. This is assuming Sancho is leaving so the funds from a Sancho transfer should be used here plus. 90-100M should do it plus his BFF Brandt is on the team as well which should help in recruiting.

    Lastly, a back-up striker is a definite must as well and I agree with @Oliseh about Petkovic being a very good option as he is the type of striker that can hold on to the ball and make himself involved in the game without being too dependent on service.
     
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  23. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the GK talk is a moot point as BVB just announced Bürki’s renewal to 2023.

    Other than a good CF I think the squad is in good shape. Now the team needs a guiding force to develop the younger players into uncompromising pros who show up to compete and win every week, the hallmark of a perennial championship contender. The coach has to instill ruthlessness while the club prefers a warmer character like Favre, but perhaps the only manager at the top who combines these qualities is a certain Jürgen Klopp.
     
  24. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If Leverkusen qualify for the CL and Favre remains then would Havertz see Dortmund as enough of a step up? He could easily go to Bayern or Real in a year or two.

    If Favre is still at the club and Sancho is sold, then for Havertz it would basically mean moving from one club that is happy to make top 4 and last 16 CL that employs a mediocre coach and sells it's best players to another club that barely has any targets bigger then that.
     
  25. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018

    Not sure what to think about the second striker thoughts... Most strikers dont like being second fiddle and want to be on the pitch a lot. Finding one content about being a back up is extremely difficult.

    Having a second striker that is younger is the best option. Other option is to get one getting up there in years, or else you find discontent like Paco.
     

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