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  1. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  2. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    The top story right now on the Corinthians fansite is not their women's team's continental semi-final, nor even the men's upcoming derby match. It's their arena's new trampoline park, "and elastic beds".

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    An exciting trampoline
     
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  3. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  4. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Fun fact - both current finalists had already qualified for next year's tournament through their domestic league! It'll be interesting to see how the hand-me-down spot gets awarded.
     
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  5. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Well, we didn't know if the tournament would reach the finish line, but it's Libertadores finals day, Monday night.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] Third-place playoff América de Cali v Cerro Porteño is up first (17:00 ECT / 22:00 GMT)
    (Ecuador time = North American CT)

    [​IMG] [​IMG] :confused: Then the final, Corinthians v Ferroviária! (19:30 ECT / 00:30 GMT)
    A pity it isn't more international, but the clubs used all their extra experience in knockout football. Corinthians will be desperate not to lose, with only one more honour to play for (the Paulista final next week).

    Ferroviária beat Corinthians on pens to win the Brazilian championship as underdog, and Tatiele Silveira became the first female coach to win that title. Can her team do the same today?

    Previews on Globo.com.br, and Elas No Ataque (Archived)

    That won't be a problem, Conmebol has a very advanced coefficient system.
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  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    It won't be CONMEBOL's decision, it'd be on the CBF. Will they pick the 3rd-place team from last year? Will they do a new play-off of some sort next summer? Who knows!
     
  7. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Ah, a Brazilian team... apparently this year the CBF invited Flamengo, or they were in the running at least, as 2018 semifinalists along with Ferroviária.

    But they (or their Navy funders) decided to do something completely different
     
  8. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    [​IMG] So, Flamengo women's team had a Chinese adventure, representing Brazil at the World Military Games, in Wuhan.

    The Brazilian club were the defending champions from the last Games (in 2015) and the annual World Military Cup in 2018, but this time Brazil finished in third place. (The Games may also be of interest to @FanOfFutbol - you said you were ex-military? - but I'm afraid the U.S. team is surprisingly low, finishing in the last 2 in the rankings since 2015.)

    Only one highlights video, a group game - China 4, Germany 0. Wikipedia has the final group tables:

    [​IMG] China PR 9pts, [​IMG] South Korea 6, [​IMG] Germany 3, [​IMG] United States 0

    [​IMG] North Korea 9, [​IMG] Brazil 4 (+1GD), [​IMG] Cameroon 4 (+0GD), [​IMG] France 0

    Losing the semifinal to China in extra-time, Brazil/Flamengo beat South Korea 3-1 to take bronze. North Korea won the final 2-1 over China. And I'll comment on what this says about the global situation..... never, thats when!

    (from 2015 but it's still good)
    So with this in mind, it's just football! Or, in the case of the People's Liberation Army, it's just Orienteering!
    "The PLA team was caught cheating in the Orienteering event. They did not use the compass to find the way, but they marked the secret mark beforehand and were disqualified." - (China Times)


    Anyway. :oops: Live South American soccer now - the clubs from Paraguay and Colombia meet in the continental bronze medal match, the first of today's 2 games in Quito, Ecuador. It's sunny and everything...

    EN VIVO | Cerro Porteño vs. América de Cali | CONMEBOL Libertadores Femenina - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw35TfTSYFM
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  9. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    #234 sbahnhof, Oct 28, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2019
    Champions of South America, who's it gonna be? Kickoff in Quito is minutes away...

    Libertadores FINAL: Ferroviária [​IMG] v [​IMG] Corinthians

    EN VIVO | Ferroviária vs. Corinthians | FINAL Libertadores Femenina
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=yieNzF4k-z4
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    * (livestream not available in Brazil, Chile, Uruguay)
     
  10. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
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  11. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    :confused: Second half, the stream's disappeared off the face of the earth - great work, Conmebol.

    Corinthians have scored - 73' Giovanna Crivelari

     
  12. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa

    Libertadores final - highlights on unofficial channel Brasileirão Feminino

    CORINTHIANS vs FERROVIÁRIA RESUMÉN Y MEJORES MOMENTOS
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=px1VVgBiq-k
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    There's also some inadequate coverage on Corinthians TV and Conmebol official. Final match report on Globo Esporte.

    Final: Ferroviária [​IMG] 0–2 [​IMG] Corinthians
    Giovanna Crivelari [​IMG] 74', Juliete [​IMG] 90'​

    América de Cali win 3rd place:

    Cerro Porteño (red) 1-3 América de Cali | CONMEBOL Libertadores Femenina
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_7Ungu__I4
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    3rd Place: Cerro Porteño [​IMG] 1–3 [​IMG] América de Cali
    Agüero 34' - Robledo 18', 24', Pulgarín 90+1'​
     
  13. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Back to the leagues...

    [​IMG] Uruguay: After Peñarol won the Apertura in July, their next meeting with Nacional was to decide the Clausura, and thus the 2019 season was on the line. Nacional trailed by 3pts and needed a win to force a Clausura playoff. But Peñarol got the victory to take the season's title without any playoffs, and completed a perfect season in the league, with 18 wins. The top-scorers were Nacional's Juliana Castro (20 goals) and Adriana Castillo (17).

    Three titles in a row for Peñarol, one more would equal the record. They don't concede many - this was their first goal conceded domestically since July. Some of the title-winning players were in a national futsal semifinal that evening!

    Peñarol 3 - 1 Nacional (10/11/19) - (Lourdes Viana 23', Ximena Velazco 68', 79' - Juliana Castro 49')
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=caDT7h3uWSs
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    Match report: OvacionDigital.com.uy (Archive)
    Season stats: AUF.org.uy (Archive)
     
  14. NaBUru38

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    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    The match was played at the massive Estadio Campeón del Siglo, although this time in front of a limited crowd.
     
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  15. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    [​IMG] Argentina: The brave new world began 2½ months ago, the professional Primera División A. The seventeen teams will play each other once to determine the top 8 and bottom 9 teams. Then, those groups will face off to decide the title (Campeonato) and the survival (Permanencia), exciting stuff.

    After the first 10 weeks, Boca lead the defending champs UAI Urquiza by 3 points. Following on from Boca's opening derby win, they've hit some impressive scores and 41 goals while only conceding 5. Independiente are in a midtable position (9th) but are the only team to score twice past Boca so far. UAI (2nd) went to the Pompilio ground and got a draw with the leaders.

    Independiente vs Boca Juniors (2-4) | Fecha 6
    youtu.be/0iw62eVa3MU


    Boca Juniors vs UAI Urquiza (1-1) | Fecha 9
    (Goles: Carolina Troncoso 80' - Mariana Larroquette 36')
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8zMO-T0Tk
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    A couple of points behind UAI are San Lorenzo (3rd) and River Plate (4th). Also currently in the top 8 are La Plata clubs Gimnasia (6th) and Estudiantes (8th)

    River Plate vs San Lorenzo (1-1) | Fecha 9
    youtu.be/jCBfZxqsz8Q


    Gimnasia LP vs Estudiantes LP (3-3) | Fecha 5
    (Chiclana 6', Sanchez 57', Esquivel 84'p - Lema 18', 59', autogol 42')
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCGe-E2W2ic
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  16. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    [​IMG] Chile: The football season was cancelled in late November because of anti-government protests around the country. Around 20 people died in building fires and military violence.

    When the leagues were cancelled, Santiago Morning led the women's division by 4 points over Colo-Colo with an unequal number of matches, and no chance of playoffs. The federation ANFP announced a Copa Libertadores place for the top club Santiago Morning, but didn't name the Microbuseros as the Chilean champions. The men's title was awarded, with the top team being 13pts ahead. After a week of pressure, the women's title was given to Santiago after all. It's their 2nd championship in a row.

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    Chilean league game in Santiago, 2018 (javimerag, cc-by-sa)

    Colo-Colo will play-off for Chile's second Libertadores slot in 2020. For the club that was so used to winning, the repercussions of a second title failure were swift, according to La Tercera:

     
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  17. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    #242 sbahnhof, Mar 23, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2020
    2019:

    venezuela-superliga-2019.png

    14 teams are split into two groups, the western and eastern - in the west Estudiantes Caracas switched for this season.

    2 new teams entered, and 4 dropped out - including Estudiantes Guárico, who won the 2017 title. The Apertura/Clausura system was abandoned for one season, in a cash crisis, in favour of a 6-month championship.

    But what are the games like? ... Pretty great, to be honest

    Flor de Patria (red) 4 - 3 Deportivo Lara | Jornada 13 | Superliga 2019 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjM1L7qowR0
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    And good music, which is important

    Caracas FC (red) 1 - 0 Lala FC - East Division, matchday 2 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=APtG6RKBQh8
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    The Venezuelan playoffs had each division's top 4 teams. And yes, the first quarterfinal was Lara vs Lala.

    Eastern club Lala FC fought into the semis, where they lost to the 2018 champs Flor de Patria, 6-2 on aggregate. In the other semifinal out east, Monagas took the lead on a penalty controversy, but Estudiantes Caracas levelled on a free-kick controversy and Estudiantes won on away goals (1-1 agg). The full playoff bracket is on the Spanish Wikipedia page.

    So, the Final, a close defeat for the defending champs:

    1st leg: Estudiantes Caracas (white) 3 - 2 Flor de Patria
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAqpZ15izkE&t=25s

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    In the vuelta, ECSC lost the lead immediately! But they brought the trophy home, their first major honour, and it was Flor's first home loss in 44 matches.

    2nd leg: Flor de Patria 1 - 2 Estudiantes (Agg: 3-5)
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bLYa7ZloUE
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    Goles: Diosely Mendoza 1’P (FDP); Yoleidis Lizcano 21’ (ECS) y Dayana Rodríguez 90+1’ (ECS).
    - Final report: Venezuelan Football Federation (Archive)

    Season's player of the year: Meibi Mesa, Flor de Patria FC
    Golden boot: 2 in a row for Génesis Flórez, Lala FC, 17 goals

    ...And that's why Estudiantes went to the Libertadores. :) I don't wanna say I'm more interested in the other teams, but Flor de Patria are called "the coffee team" in the far western coffee region, it's hard not to like them.
     
  18. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
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    Peru's 2016 champions, Universitario de Deportes

    [​IMG] The info has gotten better organized now – the FPF's women's soccer page has posted a big change for the 2020/21(?) season, a 16-team tournament, perhaps with more clubs of men's Liga 1. Wikipedia adds, "These clubs must adhere to certain criteria established by the Federation and meet requirements." Good to know. ('No smoking?')

    The 2018 women's final match was the closest ever; on penalties Municipalidad de Majes won against JC Sport Girls but didn't do much in the next Libertadores. The 2019 championship was heavily regionalized as usual and really needs a flowchart to tell which zonal champions qualified to play whom. Universitario de Deportes won both a Lima final and a regional final 2-1 to exclude Alianza Lima from the national finals. Given that Universitario easily won at the nationals, a rearrangement will be welcome.

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    The champions before, the Majes club is in some kind of trouble. This Chilean page from 2019 explains all about them and the championship:

    Majes Municipality: What little is known about Santiago Morning's second rival in the Women's Libertadores - RadioLaClave.cl, Autotranslated (Archive)


     
  19. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
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  20. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    #245 sbahnhof, May 10, 2020
    Last edited: May 10, 2020
    [​IMG] Bolivia: The last South American league to make a full set, and as google is my witness, complete the challenge that @SiberianThunderT made so long ago. Now if you could just explain why high altitude doesn't equal a high Fifa ranking, and I'll be on my way.

    Bolivia will go professional - but not yet. Conmebol's progressive rule meant the 2019 men's Libertadores clubs must also run female teams. National women's coach Napoleón Cardozo and player Cielo Veizaga Arteaga talked about the league plans after the friendlies v Peru and Puerto Rico in July 2019.
    lostiempos.com / English autotranslation (Archive)

    Three-time champion in the 2010s, the poetic Mundo Futuro FC, was a continental semifinalist after winning the 2013 league. The club only has a women's team (I guess the rule applies only one way), Futuro won another Bolivian title in 2019, but had slipped by international standards at the Copa Libertadores. Off the field, the team's coach Hernán Melgar sadly had heart problems at the tournament.

    Bolivian women's soccer Mundo Futuro RETURNS to the Libertadores five years later - Futbolella.com, Autotranslated (Archive)


    If the national 2012 championship is a guide, 7 regional champs play in Bolivia's final tournament. Clubs from the largest city, Santa Cruz, have won the most national titles: EnForma won all five in the 2000s, and team Deportivo ITA won back-to-back in 2017 and 2018. Some Bolivian players have signed with Spanish clubs.

    The 2020 crisis might unfairly affect women's football, and coach Cardozo and the FBF federation's Lily Rocabado both spoke publicly of the need for ongoing financial support.

    Bolivia were in the women's futsal Copa América in Dec 2019, with 2 group wins, but Brazil won its 6th title. The related Libertadores was scheduled for Bolivia in May 2020 but is postponed.
     
  21. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    [​IMG] TL;DR
    A message to @ King Charles V circa 1530: even with a loose definition of "a country" as an invisible zone where different things are illegal, you can't just make up a border like this.

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  22. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Now, there is a certain large country in the Americas where the coronavirus is killing 1,000 people a day while the scumbag leader is like, "OK, that's cool". Yes, it's Brazil...

    ^ (too subtle?)​
    [​IMG] And yet:
    As Brazil's coronavirus crisis worsens, top clubs play political football - (ESPN.com / Archive)

    The 2020 women's season was suspended after 4 weeks of national competition in February and March - I'll post some games later.

    The end of 2019 had Brazil's most classic competitions, the state cups: they're also the most historic, in male and female football - for instance the women's Carioca (in Rio) and Paulista (São Paulo) started soon after a military dictatorship ended bans on women playing the sport, 1983 and '84 respectively. By 1988, Brazil were the world's 3rd-placed team.

    Starting in the Carioca, an important event for a club to get to the Brazilian A2 division - generally the lucky one is whoever comes 2nd here, as Flamengo is the only premier division team in Rio. But Botafoto were keen to upset the applecart, and beat Flamengo 4-1 in the semi, before losing 7-2 in the 2nd leg. Flamengo beat Fluminense 4-1 (agg) in the final.

    Botafogo 4 x 1 Flamengo - Semifinal - 1º Jogo
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybwwqchEqxI
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    Up north in the Amazonense championship, a changing of the guard, and a sign of crisis at a top club - Iranduba won this title 8 times in succession, but in 2019 lost to club 3B da Amazônia from Brazil's 2nd division.

    3B da Amazônia 3 x 1 Iranduba - Final, Amazonense
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTl-6iQgh5Y
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    Ending with the Paulista, where Corinthians stormed to the final in their Cruyff-beating world record winning streak. Their challengers, the Brasileirao 2nd-division champs São Paulo FC, shocked higher opponents to reach this stage. Back in 1997 and '99, São Paulo won the competition. Corinthians lost the 2018 final, lifting national and continental titles but never their local trophy. Corinthians led 1-0 from the 1st leg. This was the 2nd:

    Corinthians x São Paulo - Paulista Feminino 2019
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=VamFTRqA0ck&t=20m
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    Highlights:
    "The Last Chapter of 2019 Paulista Women's Soccer Championship"
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7_Chn78_yw
     
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  23. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    [​IMG] In Chile before the lockdown, a brilliant event at Colo-Colo:
    Noche Alba
    The "White Night" is a public introduction of the club's new signings and the season's squad, who play a match that evening against a guest club. The Colo-Colo men's side has held this for 3 decades - and in 2020, it was the first "Noche Alba Femenina".

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    It's great that they did this for the players, literally gave them the red-carpet treatment. Even if you shouldn't really put your heroes up on a pedestal. :D CDF TV gave the game a whole hour of build-up - the other guest of honor was the pop star Princesa Alba, who once made a music video at the match venue, the Estadio Monumental.

    And the other guests of honor, hoping to crash the party(!) Argentina's own Boca Juniors.

    Here is the full 90 minutes, starting just before kickoff:

    [​IMG] [​IMG] EN VIVO: Colo Colo vs. Boca Juniors
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFjiwtuI4k&t=1h02m40s
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    Wish more clubs would try something like this...
     
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  24. NaBUru38

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    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Spanish club Granada has signed Uruguayan 24-year-old midfielder Pamela González.
     
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  25. sbahnhof

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    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
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    Adios, thread Page 10... it's been emotional. When this page started, we were worried about fighting in Quito – thank god that's not in the news anymore!

    [​IMG] Colombia's sport minister says Liga Femenina is looking at a September start, delayed by coronavirus. That would be nearly a year after the last game, the exciting 2019 final Independiente Medellín v América de Cali.
    The coronavirus level is relatively low but may rise, with 50 deaths a day currently, and the lockdown is taking its toll. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...avirus-lockdown-measures-200603142605505.html

    Ex-Libertadores champion club Atlético Huila is hit by a cash crisis and won't play in women's football in 2020. Also, the men's team is doing terribly so the club has less legal incentive to participate, but that's a total coincidence :rolleyes:
    (apparently a men's team can score 131 points and still get relegated)

    Paula Botero, goalscorer in the 2019 Colombian final and a futsal world champion, is retiring (see below). Overseas, Leicy Santos finished 2nd with Atlético Madrid, but she secretly supports Barcelona! (well, not secretly, but she said it in a video I half-understood. And something about, if Messi left she wouldn't support them? idk)

    Paula Botero, referente del fútbol femenino en Colombia, anunció su retiro
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0MiuGLMkSQ
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