Youth Yanks Abroad, ‘01-‘04 YOBs (and younger): 2019/20 Thread

Antonee Robinson is not a very good player but he is in a left back pool which is comprised of very bad players. I don’t think Antonee is someone who could carry the USMNT into the future (KHF and Jonathan Gomez are those guys) but he is absolutely good enough to be considered for the spot right now.

The big thing to consider about Antonee is thinking about who else would start at left back instead? Do we want Sergino Dest playing there when he is a lot better on the right? In my opinion, I’d rather have Robinson on the left than Dest. The next best options would be Tim Ream, Jorge Villafaña, Chris Gloster, Sam Vines. Tim Ream is the best option currently but his age is a very big concern. Villafaña is trash, Gloster is too young and not ready and the same thing applies to Sam Vine. I would give Robinson a chance, there is no reason to think that he wouldn’t be able to handle most of the competition in Concacaf except Mexico.

I am really hoping that Kobe Hernandez-Foster breaks through at Wolfsburg because i think he doesn’t have very far to go before he’s the best left back in the pool. What worries me with Kobe is that Glasner at Wolfsburg is showing with Uly right now that if you are a young player then you won’t be given a chance. If Glasner gives Kobe the same treatment the USMNT will be in trouble

 

I think Berhalter is likely to put Dest on the left and have a Cannon/Yedlin competition on the right for now. I know we're constantly looking for the "next big thing," but Yedlin is a 26 year old Premier League player. He's in his prime. He's more than good enough for CONCACAF.

I've been quite impressed with Kyle Dunan when I've gotten to see him post-injury.

 

To keep things on thread...even though that is not a big thing around here anymore haha.

KDLF most likely will not move from the reserve team to Barcelona. Hardly anyone does. But it is a data point that Barcelona played hard ball to keep him around. If he was "trash" with zero soccer IQ (paraphrasing Kleiban), I would think they would just let him leave and collect a small transfer or whatever TC. Space on development teams probably means more to Barcelona than a few thousand euros. But they didn't and they gave him a decent contract.

If it was Frankfurt or Norwich, then maybe that doesn't mean much. Or if Kleiban was criticizing his athleticism. But it hard to believe a player that Barcelona even cares one iota about would have zero soccer IQ.

Now, whether that is to pump up Uly or not, we can all make our own guess...Robinson is not thread eligible, was just using him to make a point. But it would be the same again, as Kobe would be up against Antonee for the LB spot on the senior and Olympic team.

Uly was in the same place as a few others at the U20 WC. They had not been playing because of FIFA/MLS rules. I was surprised he was not starting in the last games. But he was very good off the bench. I think people have reported Tab's thinking was that Uly could change a game if needed late and KDLF would not lose a game early because he worked hard on defense and only lost the ball in the opponents third, usually deep in the opponents end.

 

This exposes these people, and it’s bound to look bad for them eventually when they keep taking up these types of opinions. That’s not to say those particular players will have any certain amount of success, but if you keep making evaluations on such a limited sample (like one big tournament or set of games), you are bound to see something that isn’t in line with what you’d see if you watched a more varied sample of games.

Especially with KDLF, this is the classic example of a player playing up an age group at a youth tournament and struggling. It happens so often. If you look at the history of players playing up an age group, the eventual success of the ones who played well compared to the ones that didn’t is completely mixed. If the results show anything, they show that playing up a cycle usually does lead to a better career than those that didn’t (which seems obvious and is probably an irrelevant anecdote).

I also fully understand that none of us are professional scouts, coaches, technical staff, so an incorrect opinion doesn’t matter and nobody should be expected to have much precision if you are only voicing an amateur opinion. On the other hand, I think it’s worth establishing that fact for all of us. Almost without exception, fans are operating with a very incomplete picture of the games of these young players.

 

https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/hassan-little-messi-ayari-at-sheffield-united.2110164/

 

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He should sign somewhere in MLS.

'02 forward Sagir Arce reportedly began training today with the new Mazatlan FC. He was last with the now-disbanded Monarcas Morelia, where he consistently produced for their academy sides and also made his Liga MX debut. https://t.co/MwPF6g9Gav

— ChuckMe92 Soccer (@ChuckMe92Soccer) June 9, 2020

 

Why would he not want to live in a beach town while making a good living?

 

How does he come back to MLS and what makes anyone think anyone can sign anywhere? Most likely, FCD have Kelman's MLS rights. If they don't, then whomever is at the top of the Allocation List gets him. As an American, I don't think he can sign whereever is best for him.

At FCD, does he displace Pepi? Sealy? Ferreira?

No reason for him to leave the UK. Work permit is not an issue. Denmark, Holland, Germany are all better choices after that than MLS, at his age.

 

Because he's playing non-league football right now.

 

He’s in League 1 - that’s not non-league football.

 

FCD turned they back on him and didn't want him in the Academy. Read a quote from him recently and he seems to have remembered that. I don't think he will be signing with FCD anytime soon. As for your questions, I would take him over Pepi or Sealy in a heartbeat. But I agree with you, he will do much better than MLS by staying in Europe. That is where the guys in MLS all want to go.

 

I'm talking about Arce.

 

Ahhh, obviously we all made the same mistake in interpreting your post.

 

Apologies.

 

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I doubt FCD owns Kelman's "rights" anyway.
So its a moot point all the way around. He'll find an opportunity in Europe if he leaves Southend. Spurs? That would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down on the list of clubs I'd recommend for him. They have as much of a "veteran's coach" as there is in England.

The last thing FCD needs is another forward..................................

 

I'm going to plead ignorance on the whole "rights" thing. I can speculate that FC Dallas could claim some because he was a local kid but then again, he never played for the academy and "paid" to play.

What I do know is that Kelman plays the #9 position which seems to be a position that Dallas is in most need of...thus the addition of Franco Jara at 32 years of age. With Pepi playing a role in the U20s qualifiers and WC, Cobra in international duty next year, you are left with Jara, and Ferreira who'd be eligible for the Olympics and maybe the senior team? At that point, the roster is only an injury/Covid infection away from needing another CF.

I disagree, the main thing FC Dallas needs is a forward (CF) and one who is productive. Goals, and winning could attract a few fans. The team needs that. Kelman is not it and yes, moot discussion.

We probably both agree that Kelman will never play for FCD first team for the reasons you stated...especially with Luchi as the first team coach but also Kelman's father is some sort of soccer agent.

I would go as far as saying that the last thing FC Dallas needs is another midfielder but again, moot discussion given the present conditions

 

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'01 winger. Ingolstadt is in the third division, but does have a chance of getting promoted to the second division for next season.

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Taylor Booth making his debut for Bayern II as a deep-lying center mid.

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'03. Given that this is fourth tier of England, I can't say this is too great. You'd expect a real YNT player to be able to play regularly at that level. At the same time, I haven't seen the kid play, so I don't know how good he is, but I would think being a full first team player at age 17 for a fourth tier club would be a minimum requirement to be a notable prospect.

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Do we have any confirmation on what team Rotundo is signing for?

 

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But is Schalke a Giant? In some ways they are, and in some ways they are not.