They Needed a Minivan but Got a Gio: Reyna at Nottingham Forest (Olf Borussia Dortmund)

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  1. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    It appears that it will and sadly it may mean with him at striker which would be unfair to him if BVB fail to score.
     
  2. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Haaland and Dahoud out injured. When he came in for Haaland they moved Hazard to a more CF role. I'm guessing they wouldn't put Gio at forward vs having someone else play a CF type position like Hazard.
     
  3. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
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    Jul 23, 2018
    okay makes more sense, I wasnt able to watch the match and saw Gio for Haaland and just assumed they put him in a CF role. Thank you
     
  4. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
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    Do we?

    Is this unique to the BL? I've mostly followed prem and international VAR, but I don't think there's anything specific to those competitions about not being able to go back to rule on something because of a quick restart, that would be very against the point of VAR as far as I understand it...

    I cannot think of a reason to have this rule. If it exists and it has somehow eluded me until now I'm shocked that this exact situation has not occurred in the entire prem season, in which a VAR call didn't occur because another team initiated a quick restart, because it would have been endlessly whined and bitched about by the anti-VAR crowd. I feel like that would have been brought to my attention.
     
  5. ebbro

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    Jun 10, 2005
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    I think we don't because, at least in the Bundesliga, the ref has the option to take the advice and do nothing with it. Unless a confirmation has come out that the VAR remained silent how can we know?

    It is in IFAB's Laws of the Game. Possibly not everyone adhere's to it, but for this specific indident I've heard several pundits say BVB was a bit naive to restart so quickly.

    They also say
     
  6. freisland

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    If it ain't Ricketts it ain't shyte.
     
  7. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
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    is haaland def out for the next round?
     
  8. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    OK. So the language makes this annoying because they make this specific to a "review" even though they also seem to draw distinction between review, check, and decision.

    Either way seems like the announcers got it wrong, since they said at the time "they took the kick so there will be no CHECK". Which is as far as I can tell just incorrect.
     
  9. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Agree. The VAR is supposed to automatically check every decision/ situation. I can't imagine the VAR didn't check that. Now, whether they notified the ref he should review and he decided to stick with his decision or that he should hold up the restart so they can have time to check, who knows?
     
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  10. glutton4Bolts

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    I am pretty sure I recall several instances where something is missed on the field and play continues only to be stopped by VAR. This should have been the case here. That was a clear penalty and should have been called even after the corner was taken. Perhaps I am mis-remembering? I dunno.
     
  11. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    You are describing a different situation - play continuing and stopped by VAR/ referee vs play naturally stopped after the incident and then restarted. The rule is pretty clear that after a restart the chance to review is gone.
     
  12. taylor

    taylor Member+

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    Ist He starting?
     
  13. BostonRed

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    The match isn't until noon today ET. We'll know about 1 hour prior.
     
  14. KALM

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    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Feels like it would be the perfect opportunity to give him his first start.

    Against a bottom of the table team that nonetheless still prefers to play a pretty open style.
     
  15. teamitup76

    teamitup76 Member

    Mar 25, 2003
    CA
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    New York Red Bulls
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    He’s on the bench
     
  16. twoolley

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    Jan 3, 2008
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  17. teamitup76

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    CA
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  18. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Well that's disappointing. At least he should be the first sub this time with Can and Sancho starting, and Haaland out.
     
  19. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Yeah, that stinks. Figured with the title basically out of reach now, might as well start giving him more minutes for next year.
     
  20. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Second place and CL spot is still on the line...what are you on about?
     
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  21. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
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    United States
    0-0 at the half. Dortmund looking threatening but the final product isn’t there. Hope to see Gio early and often in the second half.
     
  22. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    I used to think Fivver was a capable coach in making poor teams competitive, but he is now actively making BvB worse.

    He has what amounts to 5 centerbacks on the pitch. Delaney and Can Cancel each other out.

    Guerrero and Hakimi are now both neutered as wing backs. Sancho and Bradnt can neither create nor attack because there is one, no space behind them and two, no one to pass the ball to them.

    Dortmund has enough talent to play a simple 4-3-3 and control and dominate this match. No real need for two redundant defensive midfielders or need to hamper your two best wing players with defensive duty. Geez, what a waste.
     
  23. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No changes at half time.
     
  24. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Hazard slots in a rebound to put them up 1-0. Take him out - clearly Reyna time.
     
  25. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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