Covid-19: We don’t talk about 1-18

USA vs EU

So who is doing better?

Maybe the economist is blowing smoke up the USA ass.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2...ds-most-powerful-country-is-handling-covid-19

 

Based on the sudden uptick in the DJIA - a bunch of Americans all went to the gun store

 

The Economist is banking on America going back to spending like a sailor on leave

 

So is wall street.

 

More like Praying to Mammon that the Orange One & GOP Governors can force people back to work under threat of termination / starvation / eviction

 

Sorry to go back for a moment to an off-topic from pages ago, but, as a teacher, in the past I happened to teach history of that particular historical period (I currently don't).

What 90% of my students weren't getting, no matter how many times I was explaining that to them, was that in the "Diet of Worms" phrase "Worms" wasn't meant to be spelled as the English word, but basically "Vorms", as in German.

 

"Almost everybody" does allow for exceptions. I was never sick until I was a teacher. The first couple of years were hell but my immune system has gotten stronger.

 

I had the exact same experience, telling them that the German W is almost always a "V" sound. It didn't catch on. It seems simple enough and can be very frustrating overall until you realize that most students are going to end up more like their folks than like their teachers.

 

So what is herd immunity when it develops. Does that not imply that most have had it? The purpose of the mask is to get there at a manageable pace so bodies aren't piling up in freezer trailers in hospital parking lots.

I think we are taking reasonable measures. I just find the response to people who disagree hyperbolic. They are not murderers, nor are they responsible for the virus. It isn't even a factor unless they are contagious, and from looking at test results that would be less than one in ten.

It makes no difference whether I am good with that or not, Is a very likely outcome and has been since the beginning.

 

Considering I am as intimately involved with LTC facilities as you are with architectural drawings, I’m telling you I see zero validation to your opinion.

 

Then Ohio & Oklahoma / Texas have markedly different systems operating for LTC and governance thereof

 

1) The purpose of the mask to lessen the transmission. Your obsession with bodies piling up is a bit odd.

2) People who know the risk and deliberately ignore that risk are responsible. Not for the virus, of course, but for the spread of the virus. That does not make them "murderers," but they are responsible for illnesses and deaths.
Also, "one in ten" is still 30,000,000 people.

3) You blase attitude is disturbing.
You speak of reasonable measures.

What "reasonable measures" are you taking?
Are you wearing a mask when you go out in public?
Are you avoiding going out in public, except when necessary?
Are you keeping your distance from others, to lessen the likelihood of transmission?
What are you doing?

I will tell you that I am doing all of those.

 

How do you know? Is it super contagious? Is thew best hope herd immunity? Does that imply that most who are going to get it hare immune? Does America have the means, the will, the leadership, and the ability to carry out contract tracing and follow best practices guidelines. The answer to date is a clear and resounding "NO" and the voices saying that are growing in number by the day.

People here talk about what we could do if.....

Americans do not have enough fear (China) or enough respect (Korea, NSW, Sweden) for the government to make that a reality. I am not saying we should be that way, but that is the way it is here. We are more divided than ever. Just look at the last week's events. You really think people are just going to spill all to the govt if they test positive? Good luck with that!

 

If pronouncing "München" as "Munich" is acceptable then pronouncing Worms with W sound must be too.

 

I went a step further, I stopped watching the Chicago Fire because all the screaming at the TV was spreading any virus

 

I had a different strategy: I watched the Fire as a satire of soccer. Like, what The Onion does with news, the Fire do with soccer.

I still had to stop watching, though, as laughing that loudly could send the virus far and wide.

 

That is certainly possible.

 

Well, consider, though, that I live (and teach) in a non-English speaking nation (Italy), so having people spell every foreign name as if it was English bothers me a little more.

By the way, here in Italy we call "München" "Monaco" (yes, like the little country that's a France's enclave, and yes, it can generate confusion). We don't have an Italian-adapted name for Worms, though.

 

One in ten is an overestimate on the high side of positive test rates as of now, not deaths. But yeah it is likely to be in the millions if the death rate does not fall significantly as we test more and more of the general population.

It isn't blase. I don't have to like it, to accept that is the most likely outcome. Just like if my 78 year old diabetic mom with high blood pressure gets it she is as good as dead. That reality doesn't mean I won't be emotional if covid gets my mom. I visit her but I sit in a chair in the yard about ten feet away (no masks) and her and her husband sit on the porch, and we have a nice visit. Depending on the wind we sit in the front or back, so I am not upwind of them.

I wear a mask if the employees do or most of the customers do. I have been car shopping and furniture shopping. I give people plenty of space and avoid even the grocery store if the lot is even halfway full. I go to the lake but that is zero contact with people who did not come with me, unless you count waving at a passing boat. Social distance is maintained for all except those on the boat.

My 16 year old grandson and his mates are interacting, he has a n95 mask but I doubt seriously if they are wearing masks. I did remind him of the governor chastising his age group for being a bit too casual and that his age group was showing rapidly increasing positive rates.

I do want to clarify that those pieces of repugnant snake excrement in Pennsylvania, that willfully hid known positive test results and failed to quarantine did act with reckless abandon, endanger folks, ought to face some sort of criminal charges, and do some time with a cellmate who thinks they are cute. That shite was just wrong and wrong on so many levels. It does illustrate part of the problem of why we can't do like other countries. Our government rightfully does not have the trust of the people.

 

Besides a vaccine how else?

Will Americans line up to take an unproven hurriedly produced vaccine? Most of the surveys indicate half will, is that enough?

 

That is pure insanity. It had never occurred to me until this very moment that other languages besides English tried this bullshit hack of just completely making up a new place name for a place that already has a perfectly good name. Like Perry is too hard for our poor clumsy tongues to pronounce so we'll call it Pear Is.