UEFA Women's Champions League 2020/21

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by shlj, Oct 1, 2019.

  1. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Dates: road to Gothenburg


    Qualifying round draw: 19 June 2020 (Nyon)
    Qualifying round: 12, 15 & 18 August 2020
    Round of 32 draw: 21 August 2020 (Nyon)
    Round of 32: 7/8 & 14/15 October 2020
    Round of 16 draw: 19 October 2020 (Nyon)
    Round of 16: 11/12 & 18/19 November 2020
    Quarter-final & semi-final draw: 27 November 2020 (Nyon)
    Quarter-finals: 23/24 March & 30 March/1 April 2021
    Semi-finals: 24/25 April & 1/2 May 2021
    Final: 16 May 2021 (Gamla Ullevi, Gothenburg)

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    The 12 highest-ranking nations in the UEFA Women's Champions League association coefficient rankings at the end of 2018/19 will be guaranteed two entries: France, Germany, England, Sweden, Spain, Czech Republic, Denmark, Italy, Switzerland, Netherlands, Norway and Kazakhstan (the first time for the Netherlands and Kazakhstan). All other entrant associations will have one representative, while the defending champions will also take part if they have not already qualified via their league (making it possible for one country to have three clubs involved).

    The holders and a certain number of teams from the 12 top-ranked nations will have byes to the last 32 with the rest starting in the qualifying round, with the exact total determined by the volume of entries
     
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  2. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    6 teams in this league with only one dominant...and so one thid of the Kazakh league will play in UWCL. UEFA coefficients... :confused::laugh:
     
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  3. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yes, it will be interesting to see how good that second Kazakh team will be.
     
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  4. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It is FC Okzhetes. Rosengard, Goteborg, Lillestrom Biik Kazygurt, CSKA Moscou and Glasgow City among those already qualified.
     
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  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Champions League reform should be announced today. We will see if it happens next season or the one after in 2021/22.
     
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  6. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
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  7. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #7 SiberianThunderT, Dec 4, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2019
    Holy shit yes

    Two playoff rounds before the group stage, with Champions and Non-Champions paths, PLUS the bumps to three teams for nations 1-6 AND bumps to two teams all the way down to nation 16. I'm officially hype. Too bad they're waiting an extra year to implement it!

    ...though this means that the big table I helped make for the Wikipedia article is now gonna need reformatting...

    Also, I'm wondering what they'll do in the champions path with variable number of countries entering... And do the defending champions take up a slot otherwise or cause additional berths further down?
     
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  8. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Simulation:

     
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  9. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It is important to note that this simulation is wrong because Spain will probably take England's third place and therefore send the England Champion to Round 2.
     
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  10. Neytreenor

    Neytreenor Member

    May 3, 2014
    Interesting changes.

    I wonder what happens if a defending champion is from associations ranked 1-3 (which is almost a sure thing)? If I undestand correctly the format of mens Champions League, they will probably just shift rank for champions by 1, i.e. the champion of 4th association will go directly to the group stage and the one from 7th association - to Round 2. It doesn't seem to affect a set of qualified teams, just a technical detail.

    And it might be a tough qualification for 2nd and 3rd places - only 5 spots for them.
     
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  11. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Applause to UEFA for finally launching a good CL format. Two or three seasons with this competition and we might see a fairly accurate ranking of strength between leagues.
     
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  12. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yes only the champions of the top 3 nations and the title holders have it easy.
    The champions from nations ranked 7th and below have been f**** they will start in August and will jump a lot of hoops to get to the group stage.
     
  13. flax

    flax Member

    Feb 8, 2012
    Sweden
    I think all the champions can be quite pleased with the change. They no longer risk having to play the reigning champions, the champions of the top 3 nations or the 2nd teams of any of the top nations. So should be much easier to reach the group stage than it is to reach the last 16 today.

    Tougher for the 2nd and 3rd placed teams for sure. But it is the "Champions" league so I guess that's fair.
     
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  14. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I think only the champions of 7-12 are really affected at all, and even then I think they'd prefer the current setup since they're not playing *anyone* from the top 6 nations to get to the R16.

    For everyone else, If they wanted to get to the R16 before, they had to get through a preset-location three-game group phase with one, maybe two teams of four getting through, also starting in August, *then* hope for a favorable match-up in the R32, which was highly unlikely for QR teams. That's almost exactly the same as before.

    I think the people who'd be least happy about the change are the non-champions from the top nations. Before, they either dropped straight into the R32 or probably cruised through the preliminary groups. Either way, just from historical rankings, they probably would get a moderately easy R32 match-up to make the R16. Now, they have to play other fairly-well-ranked non-champions to make the R32 *and* the R16. It'll be a slog.
     
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  15. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Small correction - I forgot where the champions of 4-6 enter the competition. They're on the same Champions path as the champions of 7-12. That said, if you assume the champions of 7-12 cruise through the first round as expected, then any individual one of them has less than a one-quarter chance of facing one of the 4-6 champions in the second round. And they still completely avoid "extra" teams from 1-6 or the champions of 1-3.
     
  16. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Also consider that there there have been 3rd-placed teams in the past coming from the very top leagues (Germany comes to mind, but these days also France or England) that could have been arguably as competitive (or even more competitive) than Champions or 2nd-placed teams from even fairly ranked other nations.

    I am very happy that they can now at least enter the competition, if at the price of facing a slightly more difficult path.

    Also, this will surely inject more life, more drama, more interest, more meaningful matches (and, in the end, hopefully more money) in national leagues where competiting for a 3rd place will finally have a meaning. This can be huge and deep, since the slight chance of a Champions' league place can affect even teams that are quite low in the rankings, especially in leagues that don't have more than a dozen teams or such: suddenly, matches that were meaningless by the half of the season will become tie-breakers for a Champions' league spot and this should do things like: 1) making it harder for the top teams, that will have more and more motivated opponents to compete against; 2) attract more fans, since ther 5th or 6th placed beloved team doesn't have anymore to just trail until the end of another boring season, but it now has the target of a big dream to actually fight for; 3) hopefully generate more investments, when a measly 3rd-place out of 10 or 12 teams can traslate into exposure on the international scene for a reasonable number of matches and not just for a single home-&-away direct elimination round.

    Maybe I am too much optimistic about all that, but frankly it's difficult not to be excited by these news: they could herald a whole new dimension for European club football.
     
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  17. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I just did a massive (and largely overdue) update to the "Format" section of the UWCL Wiki page, and it made me think of some of the math involved... 50 nations entered the 19-20 UWCL, and that's what the published example structure is based on. However, we've been asking "what happens if the defending champion is already qualified"? It would definitely depend on exactly which team that is, but I also noticed that there are 51 nations entered into the 20-21 UWCL. If the defending UWCL champion is also the champion of the domestic league and we stay at 51 nations entering, then it's pretty easy to just bump the entire "champions path" up by one team. Now, if the defending UWCL champion doesn't also win its domestic league, things get messy...
     
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  18. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It does not. No worries.
     
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  20. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Heh, with men's team on the bench for 2 years that may affect women team in a good way.considering new UWCL.
     
  21. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    UEFA was so mad at PSG they decided to ban Man City?
     
  22. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Corrupt Sheiks have corrupted international soccer.
     
  23. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Competition entries will be interesting. Belgium and Israel have terminated their League and declared a champion: Anderlecht and Ramat HaSharon
    Austria have cancelled their League.

    "The deadlines related to all 2020/21 UEFA club competitions are postponed until further notice, in particular as regards the admission process and the registration of players. UEFA will set new deadlines in due course."
     
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  24. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It was announced a while ago, so not sure anyone mentioned it
    2022 WCL final at Juventus' Allianz Stadium and 2023 at PSV Eindhoven Phillips Stadium 41k and 35k seats.
     
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  25. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Wow, this could be huge for the Italian women's football movement! :eek:

    Not to mention that, with the second WCL's final in Italy in just 6 years, I would get the chance to follow my second final, after the 2016's one in Reggio Emilia! :D (Torino is less than two hours by train from Milan, where I live).
     

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