They Needed a Minivan but Got a Gio: Reyna at Nottingham Forest (Olf Borussia Dortmund)

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  1. hype25

    hype25 Member

    Jul 17, 2016
    Haaland out for the Paderborn match
     
  2. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    1. Weigl was a fantastic player who was somehow run into the ground by a series of coaches. I would never have traded him. He would be my #6.
    2. I would absolutely never play the Ferengi, Dahoud.
    3. I would have placed Can in the 6 or Witsel. Delaney later in the match for Witsel.
    4. Next to him you need a passing mid, not a defending one.
    5. More than likely I would have dropped Brandt back a bit and set up a 4-2-3-1 with Hakimi, Guerrero, Can, with Brandt cheating back.
    6. I would have placed Sancho and Hazard behind Hahaland.

    I know everyone wants to attack with width but with Hahahland I would go right at two old no legged BM center backs.
     
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  3. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    The double post is an early sign of immortality.
     
  4. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    This kind of player never sees the pitch on any team I ever play. Doesn't pass well enough. Doesn't mark players out. Doesn't work well on his first touch. Doesn't find space to buy his team time. Doesn't move the ball fast enough.
     
  5. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    United States
    Weigl had serious weaknesses. No defense or ability to run, for one.
     
  6. EruditeHobo

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    Dahoud is a fine passer, this is not the formation which relies upon big creativity from the 2 CMs.

    BVB did plenty to take some points from Bayern... they got beaten by a wonderstrike/sub-par keeper play and an arguable penalty call. Their finishing/final ball wasn't quite there. Whether that means the manager should be fired I don't know... but increasingly it looks like there will be no massive transfers at least until January, probably until July 2021, so whether continuing with Favre or shaking things up with someone new is the way to go I'm not sure. Either way I'd be surprised if the likes of Sancho and Haaland were being sold within the next 12 months.

    I think this idea or expectation that BVB should be coming close to competing with Bayern just because they're better than last year is probably dumb... I don't think the story of the team's supposed progress (or lack thereof) is shown by looking at just a few metrics. As always this kind of decision should be about who is a realistic target that would elect to come in to replace him. Because finishing clear 2nd in the BL is not bad, it's frankly where this current BVB side belong. And I wonder how much that really changes with a manager swap.

    The new no-fault rule doesn't apply to defenders yet.
    That said, this should have been called.
    THAT said, it's within the rules that the ref can dismiss VAR.
     
  7. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    United States
    Weigl had serious weaknesses. No defense or ability to run, for one.
     
  8. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    What's the new no fault rule hobo
     
  9. EruditeHobo

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    Mar 29, 2007
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    Last seasons rule is if the ball makes contact with an attacking player's hand/arm at all, a goal cannot occur soon after that touch, in the same phase of play or whatever. I'm paraphrasing, but that's basically it.

    The new change, which I think was going into effect for 20/21, has to do with the "sleeve" of the player... which takes away the "intentional" language and does apply to defenders, unlike the above rule. So under that new change, intentional or not, this Boateng incident would almost certainly have to be given I'd imagine. A ball ricocheting off an elbow, there will be no cover in the rules about "intention" for those kinds of incidents going forward.

    I think I have that right.
     
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  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Shouldn't be needed.
     
  11. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    He seemed to run just fine to me. People can say whatever they want. In the end, as shown by results, they had a lead and they lost it. They have a lot of young talent that wins on talent rather than coaching.

    You can all find whichever excuses/reasons you want for this or that. For my money, coach, probably GK, DM, CM and AM need to be shuffled around. A lot of really good talent on this team with some key leadership. Seems like a waste to me.

    Gio once he cracks the regular rotation should have a nice place to grow his game for the foreseeable future.
     
  12. Excellency

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    Nov 4, 2011
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    That's what I was worried about. What are we actually watching...
     
  13. BostonRed

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  15. BostonRed

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    Herc sometimes digs too deep for examples --- J. Gonzalez, Subotic & Rossi aren't much of a coherent trend. Throwing in Trent Alexander-Arnold, whom we aren't convinced could get a US passport, is a stretch.
     
  16. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Expecting a start and a brace, in that order.
     
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  17. hype25

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  18. Dr.Phil

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    If deemed clear and oblivious VAR could have taken a look but Dortmund's quick restart ended that opportunity
     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    BVB restarted right away because they know the gig. It's the same every year. Calls go to Hollywood when the season gets to the final stretch.
     
  20. Dr.Phil

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    [​IMG]
    Bayern dusel
     
  21. EruditeHobo

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    Don't think that's how VAR works.
     
  22. ebbro

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    Jun 10, 2005
    We don't know that VAR didn't intervene. VAR can only give an opinion - the referee can ignore it, accept it, or review it.
     
  23. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    #2798 ebbro, May 29, 2020
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    In what sense?

    If play has stopped and restarted the referee can only initiate a review for mistaken identity or possible sending off for violent conduct.

    Or were you talking about the "clear and obvious" bit? That is irrelevant because VAR is always taking a look.
     
  24. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
  25. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    Perfect time for Gio to get his first actual start against Paderborn. Hopefully that comes to fruition on Sunday.
     
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