Corona crisis. Is it going to change the way we live?

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  1. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    A little empty but it raises a few good points:

    1. Should FIFA and all the confederations demand a more leaner and healthier balance and some kind of trust fund financed with the league profits?

    2. Calendars need to be adjusted, probably have a leaner continental schedule, with fewer teams qualifying and possibly with a shorter league/cup schedule. UEFA, Conmebol and FIFA should also cut the number of tournaments they have played in the last few years.

    These are IMHO some other isues to discuss:

    3. It is obvious that club and league finances are going to suffer, so hopefully we see a less astronomic figures paid in transfers and smaller salaries, as well as many sponsors withdrawing from the sport or diminishing their investments. Should caps for salaries and transfer be implemented?

    4. Also, with travel becoming an inconvenience, does it make sense to have regional groups that play in one city, to then advance to national/continental phases?

    5. There will be more games on TV but, will people be able to pay for subscriptions in a global economic downturn?
     
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  2. That will be a question about funding the big leagues with tv money from non European countries.
    Subscription fees have to come down as many fans will face reduced income for some time.
    Sponsors buying time on the networks for commercials are facing losses instead of profits, so what role do they have for those commercials? If reduced it also reduces what networks will/want/can pay the big leagues.

    How are networks going to rate televised matches behind closed doors? They bought a product that's not just 22 men on a pitch. It's about ambiance the crowds create to deliver the viewer an experience. If I was a network I would refuse to pay the whole sum to those leagues.
     
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  3. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    As for baseball they can go back to the time when I was a kid. :geek:

    In re-creation, the announcer did not need to go to the ballpark, did not even need to be in the same city, and didn’t have a telephone connection to the actual events. Instead, he sat in front of a teletypewriter, which transmitted the absolutely bare-bones truncated data of the game, like so: “Jones up. Strike. ground to third. out. Smith up. Ball. Strike. Strike . . . “

    The announcer sat in front of the teletype, pretended to be at the park, and announced the game to the fans listening on the radio. The engineer and he had a bunch of buttons that activated perhaps a half dozen primitive tape sequences: Cheers, Boos, “Excited Crowd,” “Regular Crowd.” The announcer had a bat and a block of wood that he used to simulate the sound of a bat hitting a ball. Soccer would be much easier...just have the Fat Lady scream for most tackles!

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  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Those were the days

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  5. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    One of the last times that United had a dedicated radio broadcast, it was a guy in a radio station studio watching the match on television with a bad crowd noise track in the background.
     
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  6. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    ♫....my friend
    We though they'd never end

    I was out in left field or 3rd base.....Why, you ask?...I don't know!

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  7. The nba wants to play it's matches in Disney World, while the teams are in a sort of campus style environment.
    Mls plans to do the same. Is this the death of professional sport as we have known it?
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no
     
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  9. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Depends on how old you are.

    Under 30- yes
    Under 40- probably
    Between 40 and 60- who knows?
    Over 60- probably not

    But the last two groups have seen so many changes in pro sports already that a massively stripped-down version could be cynically viewed as just another one. Interleague baseball, more clubs added to the given continental club football championship, the dissolution/merger of an entire gridiron league, tennis going from "amateur" to professional (I think golf did the same), World Cup games being broadcast live instead of folks waiting on Wide World Of Sports to air the final a week later, the desegregation of labor in college football nationwide, the emergence of women's tennis as a viewing attraction equal to the men in the early 70s, teams now in existence that were not in the early 70s...the broadcasting of Ivy sports like hockey and lax,

    Young people don't remember waiting on the World Cup because there was no other soccer on TV, going to the library and using microfiche to research old matches because there were no bookstores that sold the weekly publications, no Soccer Made In Germany all over the country, just elite enclaves and large cities, no coverage of the game except for Europe... they have no memory of a 14-game regular season and an 8-team playoff in an NFL with 26 teams...
     
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  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    FWIW, I was watching a recap of the Argentinian League from 1995 and it was awesome!! So much talent on the field and such emotional games...

    If we can go back to a Pre-Bosman soccer, when Europe didn’t poach even the moderate talented, I’d say that was a positive development.
     
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  11. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SMiG - Remembering your first crush
     
  12. Arenot these the most important ones?
    So how will these be affected or how are they possibly going to react in the future in relation to watching/supporting clubs?
     
  13. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I don't know. I'm not in either group, and even if I were, I'm just one person.
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If I had been the father of up to four children, everyone of them would be named Toby Charles Wankler.
     
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  15. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    If you sign me to a 3-year contract and I play three years, you've gotten three years worth of service from me. That's what you paid for. You were compensated on the pitch. Why should the club that's going to pay me more have to pay you when I've either done for you what you asked or have not? Besides, all you have to do is sell me before my contract has fewer than six months remaining.

    It isn't poaching if you can't pay me what I can earn somewhere else. That fee may have kept my future pay down, or it may even cause the prospective buyer to pass on me, meaning that I have to earn less than my value because of where I was born. That's not right.

    I'd love to see the rest of the world get their acts together as nations so that they can pay what the big clubs in Europe pay.
     
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  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was here or the dow thread, but since it is German and it may be a glimpse on what we will see happening more and more.

    Remember government Motors.

    Well we have fly Germany.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/25/german-government-agrees-to-lufthansa-bailout-279392


    If I understand the article correctly (perhaps they described it too simplistic) It would have been cheaper for the government to just buy out the investors and nationalize the airline (but then they would still need to invest to keep it flying)
     
  17. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Mine was Tony Tirado on Telemundo. I practically learned Spanish listening to him.
     
  18. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I learned most of the non-profane spanish I know from watching Telenovellas with Busty Latinas with big ole asses - dunno what you were thinking
     
  19. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
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  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    A lot of it has to do with not advancing to European competitions:


    “el recorte más grave es precisamente el que ha venido en los dos últimos cursos de la participación en la Champions, que ha reportado alrededor de 60 millones de euros cada temporada”

    “The biggest cut has derived from the participation in UCL which has produced around €60 million for each season”
     
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  22. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Well....as this crisis has definitely put the kibosh on my dining pleasures I'm anxiously awaiting my needed $1200[x2] stimulus check as I'm out of lobster tails and rib eyes. I'm sick of cake! :coffee:
     
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  23. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    This is the man we owed thanks to. It wasn’t a great program but it was football from England.

    His Obit.
    RIP Mario Machado, Pioneer of Soccer On US Television
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    May 31, 2013 · However, Machado is best known in soccer circles for his Star Soccer program, which gave Americans highlights of ...

    Follow the link, it’s an interesting read.
     
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