Racism...Forever?

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  1. ??
    He wasnot killed, he died of a heart attack.
     
  2. What lawyer?
     
  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Some punks have a death wish tho

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  4. The Dutch forensic institute concluded this.
    Investigation cause of death

    The NFI has conducted extensive investigations into the cause of death of the Assenaar. From the first preliminary results of the section no immediately definite cause of death could be determined. In the final report, the pathologist concluded that death can be explained by a combination of (two or more) findings, namely being restraint by the males, heart abnormalities, and effects of amphetamine and alcohol intake.

    Although detaining V. may have contributed in part to the death, the suspects did not want or could foresee this consequence, according to the Public Prosecution.
     
  5. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Sure, but that's more a result of how kidnapping statutes are drafted. Asportation is almost always an element of kidnapping. Most states require the asportation to be more than minimal and not merely incident to another crime. So if you move the victims from the front of the bank to the back so they can open the safe, that's usually not enough to warrant a kidnapping charge.

    And that's more of a classic felony murder situation. Something as inherently violent as an explosion, I think it's more reasonable for a prosecutor to argue "you knew what could happen if anyone happened to be around when that explosion went off---therefore, felony murder.
     
  6. I provided a Dutch example that I knew of how it was handled and the outcome of it to see how it would have been handled in an American situation with the addition situation the citizen arrest was forced upon an innocent one.
    It was rather strange to note how there was jumping to conclusions about the Dutch case.
    However still interested in how cases like that turned out in the States.
     
  7. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    In the U.S., if you sped away from a parking lot because you and your buddies just robbed a store, and you then crash into another car and kill that driver --- yes, a prosecutor could charge you with felony murder, because conduct in which you engaged while committing a felony (the armed robbery) resulted in someone's death.
     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Cant remember where all the Karen stuff is. But heres an OK one that went from a ticket to electrified rather quickly

     
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  9. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Hmmm... I think trying to get away is where she f*cked up royally. Up until that point things could have gone better for her.
     
  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Karen didnt think she deserved a ticket. So driving off was well within mah rights!
     
  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Amusing video. But aren't Karens supposed to be kinda from privilege? This woman looks to be what we politely call the salt of the earth, and less politely call white trash.
     
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  12. chad

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    Jun 24, 1999
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    She still has white privilege, and it seems that “Karen“ morphed rapidly into the generic term for aggressive Trumpian (conservative suburban or ignorant rural) white women.

    Soon enough it’ll probably lose the political aspect and just be another regular old misogynist slur for any woman who advocates for herself anywhere.
     
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  13. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Privileged redneck. I halfway expected the cop to be Black.
    People getting shot full of holes, people getting hit 56 times in 81 seconds and she can't sign a ********ing ticket? Tells him she won't sign the ticket and then drives off? Folks getting shot with their god-damned hands up and no weapons? And she can't sign a ********ing ticket?

    White Privilege here is her worthless flat ass not stopping a slug.
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    I can imagine someone testifying to a Senate committee and responding to a grilling from Elizabeth Warrenn with and "Okay Karen..."
     
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  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    In the olden days WT acting out would be beaten with a flashlight just like minorities. The fact this cop saw to uphold the law with this brazen Karen is the real story. He should get a medal. :thumbsup:

    If you read tweets underneath you'll see that Whitelandians were at the town meeting expressing their outrage over how Karen was handled
     
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  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
  17. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    Cashion is 15 ish miles north of me. There are no black residents
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Now we know why the cop was getting in some practice on that Karen
     
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  19. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    The place I work for used some bullshit google/youtube videos for part of the inclusion training.

    As part of an update on the company's status during the pandemic, they've had live streamed Q&A sessions. An actual question that was selected to be asked to the CEO was if we could forego diversity in these difficult times... I was glad the CEO was as dumbfounded as I was by the question. He gained a few points in my book for how he answered.
    Damn. I wasn't going to click until I saw Danville mentioned. I know that Lowe's and remember the story. I have a lot of family in the area. I used to look forward to at least going to the mall or shopping centers in Danville instead of being stuck on farms in the middle of nowhere 40 minutes away. Danville was the last capitol of the Confederacy. If I've mentioned stories about my parents or family growing up in this thread, Danville was the closest "big city." Danville is one of those places where coincidentally people put very large Confederate flags in very prominent areas during the last presidency while the city itself was finally moving on. Danville had their own Bloody Monday that sparked national outrage and attention from Dr. King. Danville had a post-Civil War "race riot" that even the US Senate said was the fault of the white people. Once upon a time, it was a big textile area on the Dan River and helped areas farther up the river like Martinsville and Bassett as well as places in North Carolina with furniture. Now, not so much. There's still a big Goodyear plant. Even my grandfathers worked there for some time.
    Karens and Karen adjacent have definitely ruined the term over the past couple of months.
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    "Forego diversity" in a crisis. LMAO. Well we're gonna have to be openly racist & homophobic again. I cant get a haircut or go to Applebees.
     
  21. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Foregoing diversity (whatever that means) probably isn't going to make even one of these people don a mask or stay home. That was just someone angling for an opportunity to reject diversity for the sake of rejecting diversity.

    There is already diversity among people here as it is. Perhaps the idea was to ignore diversity in favor of English-only signs and shit, and being able to shout slurs at anyone caught speaking another language.
     
  22. Shouting slurs to people speaking sign language isnot going to impact them;)
     
  23. Auriaprottu

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    https://newsone.com/3947005/patrici...n6wYA5ZLJLUfZOAWBayaLE3A_9CUMNWlJwf_WqXNggOKI

    Mother Who Lied That Black Men Kidnapped Her Son Is Charged With His Murder

    Patricia Ripley now stands accused of pushing her son, Alejandro Ripley, into a canal on Thursday evening to drown him. Surveillance footage showed her committing the deed, ABC News reported. But after neighbors rushed to save him, she took him to another canal and did it again, this time to deadly results.

    Patricia Ripley alerted the authorities and said Alejandro was kidnapped by two Black men. One of them, she said, had a knife. The other, she added, demanded drugs. The police report described her as a white Hispanic.

    lol...
     
  24. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Cashion is also one of these podunk towns that has no money for cops, so basically about 2/3 of their LEO's are unpaid - working for the experience, while they have day/night jobs elsewhere - then, they use that experience to get hired on full time either in county sheriff's departments or small city police departments.

    Cashion is also the town where the Kerr-McGee plant that Karen Silkwood got herself whacked over
     
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  25. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    Noem: Tribes' Checkpoints Dispute Not Just About Coronavirus

    It never was...
    Essentially, working to undermine tribal sovereignty at the state level

    I bolded the important part. If you recall, the original layout took the pipeline just above the city of Bismarck ND, crossing the river. Since these pipelines tend to break occasionally, dropping 10,000 barrels of oil into the Missouri just above the Public Water Supply for 70,000, (predominately White Americans - just under 95%, 3.4% Native & everyone else filling out the rest), but crosses directly under the water supply of Standing Rock Rez with 8200 residents, 99.5% Native).

    Given that the feeder to these proposed pipelines has already sprung like 10 leaks under North Dakota farms, I'd say Standing Rock knows it's only a matter of time, and they don't want to be poisoned off the last place they have, especially given the conditions in Flint, MI
     

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