Coronavirus COVID19 - Megathread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Eddie, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Not sure where you live in the US, but Colorado (I live in boulder) was shutdown completely. You had super markets open (for less hours and with counts of how people in the store, beside that, for the first 4 weeks even restaurants didn't do any take out or delivery. Roads are empty. We live by nature, so the trails are for sure more populated, even on trails everyone with masks and are going off trail to accommodate social distancing.
    I saw a guy getting kicked out of trader Joe for taking his mask off.
     
  2. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    People and their needs are absolutely irrelevant in this. This isn't about socialising or the convinience of people. It's about rather having 50.000 dead people than 5.000.000 unemployed.

    To quote Bavaria's prime minister "today we grant a lot more freedom, but also a lot more responsibility", which translates to "it's up to you guys to deal with this now".

    So far for the stores that have opened up again, business is down by 60% on average and that average is brutally manipulated by places like hair salons that had multiple hour long waiting lines for a haircut.
     
  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Tebas is such a wormesque creature. Spanish football deserves better.
     
  4. lukita

    lukita Member+

    Real Madrid
    Aug 13, 2019
    My flight from Toronto to Paris on July 5th has already been cancelled, they emailed me today. Great, I haven't been in Europe or visited family in the Balkans in 7 or 8 years. And of course I can't get a refund, just a voucher. Was gonna go all throughout Austria, Paris, Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Greece, Montenegro and now my summer has gone to shit. Goddamn ********ing virus:cry::cry::cry::cry:
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Something not right there. If the flight was cancelled you should get a full refund. Often the airlines wait until the day of before officially canceling a flight, even though we know a month in advance that there is no way an international flight will take off as planned.

    Are you sure the flight was canceled ? July 5 seems kinda far away for the airline to cancel now.
     
  6. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    That's super weird. What airline? I have a flight out of Toronto on June 15th, and I've not received anything.
     
  8. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Grocery stores is one place where people really ought to wear a mask. That dick deserved to get the boot. Its not asking much to put on a mask for 30 minutes.

    These minimal measures that are currently in place are literally saving tens of thousands of lives.
     
  9. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    You mean Trump is saving tens of millions of lives because he is the one who created it and enforced it. Worldwide.
     
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  10. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm not sold on that.
    First of all, writing something like "people and their needs are absolutely irrelevant" sounds like a slogan out Stalin's text book.

    The economy crisis that will follow, the health issue that will arise from this crisis, crime, suicides, hunger - I dare to say will add a much higher death toll.
    The measures where correct and right, but not sustainable, as such, people will go out and interact, and those with the higher chances of getting killed by this virus, those that for some reason the virus seems to do more damage (and we still don't know why), they will get infected, there is no way around that. It could be me or you who are one of these anomalies (basic healthy and fit people, not old, not with any background disease) that will catch it and get serious sicknesses. The issue is that me or you might be able to sustain an isolated/working from home way of life for a long time, but the vast majority of the population - can't.

    Don't forget also that politics plays here as well, the same people that are stuck at home feeling angry, need to vote at some point.
    Politicians are completely taking chances on side to chose. You might save more lives now but be remembered as the PM that brought the worst economy crisis to you country or remembered as the one who lost thousands of people to the virus but held the economy at steady rate (relative to how bad the whole world is going).

    I'm just saying, this is not black or white. Without the data that we don't have yet, you can't just say something like that and be 100% sure.
     
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  11. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Of course we have to "go out" and take a chance at some point. Can't wait for a vaccine. But just seems premature to do that when the daily death count is still rising or still at its peak.
     
  12. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Your first problem is you don't know the difference between a "need" and a "want".

    The irony that most of you adults look at children as if they're petulant when you're even worse.
     
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  13. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Tim Roth showing up for the Goal IV rehearsals early. Good to see.
     
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  14. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #2589 4x4s, May 6, 2020
    Last edited: May 6, 2020
    Everybody agrees that the economy took over in Germany. Until the end of the month, everything will be open in the country, including pro sports, hotels, restaurants, school etc.

    All medical experts voice that they are at the very least sceptical, to some saying that it's a catastrophic decision.

    Merkel said the government has the situation under control, but at the end of the day "we rely on the cooperation of the people". Bavaria's prime minister said that he "trusts people can act responsibly".

    The limit to keeping everything open is an infection rate of 50 per 100.000 people, and even if that is reached, a second lockdown is out of the question: What will happen is that visiting elderly homes will be prohibited, or business hours will be shortnened.


    Our entire staff is back to work already. The only ones allowed to work from home are single parents that can't find a caretaker.
     
  15. lukita

    lukita Member+

    Real Madrid
    Aug 13, 2019
    Air France. I'm gonna contact my credit card company and do a charge back. No idea why they are cancelling it so early at all.
     
  16. lukita

    lukita Member+

    Real Madrid
    Aug 13, 2019
    Yes, it is cancelled and they have sent me a 1 year voucher which if it isn't used in a year you get a refund. Which may not even be true after the year. I have no idea how they have cancelled it so early.
     
  17. sneakking

    sneakking Member+

    Sep 11, 2009
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    That's odd. Airline trying to be sneaky.
     
  19. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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    “I am literally telling you that they are murdering these people,” Sirotek said in the terrifying video.

    “I know not everybody is going to live. I’m not that f-cking green, or ignorant, or bright-eyed and bushy-tailed to think that, okay? I know we’re going to have a sh-t ton of people die — but these people aren’t dying from COVID.”

    Sirotek gave several specific examples of patients who have died from medical negligence, including a resident nurse who killed a patient by using a defibrillator on him when he had a pulse and it wasn’t necessary. When Sirotek ran out of the room to get help to stop the nurse from doing it, the director of nursing just shook their head at her.


    In another example, Sirotek said that a COVID patient was given the wrong type of insulin. Even more disturbing, she said that the hospital refused to give blood transfusions to patients who are low on blood unless they have internal bleeding. Without proper blood flow, she explained, the ventilators will not do anything to help them breath — and she said that this is a common problem for patients with the virus.

    “Nobody is listening. They don’t care what is happening to these people. They don’t. I’m literally coming here every day and watching them kill them,” she said.

    Sirotek explained that “we’re not even treating the COVID guys, for real, we’re not treating the COVID.” She said that the bare minimum is being done to keep them alive, but not to help them get better. This has led to a 100% mortality rate in her unit, she claims.

    “I am literally telling you that they are murdering these people — and nobody will listen to me. Like I said, I’m not a doctor, but I’m pretty sure that when you defibrillate somebody with a heartbeat of 40 and a stable rhythm, and you kill them, that’s murder.”
     
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  20. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    My stores have been open since Monday. The stores in which you can go to with a car, business has been just like pre-corona. But in the stores in which you can only go by foot, business has been down quite a bit. Only 3-5% of customers wear masks and/or gloves.

    We've had very few cases in our country, especially in the capital where i live, 1 case in 1 week is pretty great, hopefully it'll stay like that. I'm pretty scared of the 2nd wave.
     
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  21. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Most airlines and cruiselines are doing vouchers.

    Luckily the Magic reached out to me and i will get a refund for my magic season tickets
     
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  22. sneakking

    sneakking Member+

    Sep 11, 2009
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they are starting out with vouchers in the hope that most people accept or don't care, but a chargeback should get your money back
     
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  23. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Bundesliga resumes of May 15.

     
  24. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
     
  25. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I find that Kiyan is blinded by faith in his favourites, and backs them to the hilt, with bias, unnecessarily.
     

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