US women soccer players want equal pay to US men's team.

The one big issue that is not being addressed enough is that the WNT went out of their way to negotiate security - including individual contract stability - enjoyed that security up until the WWC and then slap a lawsuit deeming bonus money unfair. If they won then the men would have rightfully been able to slap their own lawsuit claiming the contract difference is unfair.

 

If the men offered a completely equal deal that split WC revenue, BUT required the WNT to give up their salaries and benefits, would the WNT take it? I would guess no, based on the past negotiations. I think the men know that which makes it an easy thing for them to propose, knowing it wouldn't happen.

 

Because clearly "everything you need to know" includes all the women's talking points taken at face value, quotes from all the women's players, and 3 sentences to sum up the USSF defense. They aren't all this bad, but I can't remember reading a single article from a soccer journalist which wasn't firmly in the women's camp. According to Grant Wahl, he hadn't even spoken to a single person in the industry who thought the judge would rule this way. Anyone who disagrees is obviously just a misogynist and would get blackballed from the industry.

 

If you mean it's not being addressed enough in the media (or in the uninformed hot takes of my liberal Democratic brethren) you are correct.

If you mean it's not being addressed enough on this forum, I have to disagree.

 

I picked that article because those three sentences are three sentences more than many articles gave for USSF's version. I still want to meet these guys playing and winning twenty friendlies a year for the USMNT.

 

even the women don't want that they want the same amount paid to them they don't want money pooled.

also the men want equal pay but the women and men both don't have any right to money paid for a tournament they had no part in at all.

 

I don't know why you guys don't read what the women have said they want.

they dont want the men's bonus. they want the bonus that fifa would've paid the men had they done what the women had done in the world cup. they want a prize pool to split among themselves that is equal to what the french mens team won.

 

FIFA determines the prize money based on the revenue that the events bring in.

Also, the women kept all of the FIFA prize awarded to the USSF for winning the WWC.

The World Cups also aren't played in the same calendar year....which makes it kind of difficult to split those bonuses wouldn't you say?

At the end of the day this is like a sales person.

Sales person A negotiates that they get a lower upfront guaranteed salary for a higher commission and bonus rate.

Sales person B negotiates a higher guaranteed salary up front, with a lower commission and bonus structure.

 

"The history of negotiations between the parties demonstrates that the WNT rejected an offer to be paid under the same pay-to-play structure as the MNT, and that the WNT was willing to forgo higher bonuses for other benefits, such as greater base compensation and the guarantee of a higher number of contracted players."

 

thats what you and everyone else doesn't get that they are fooling you all over. they aren't looking at the usmnt they just want the usmnt support...they are looking at the world cup winning teams and what they get paid to win the world cup. they know they make more then the usmnt right now.

 

that is what I am saying...they dont want the men's team bonus or pay that they've earned they want the bonus/pay from teams that win the world cup.

 

I'm just quoting the judge.

 

Grant Wahl was clearly more cheerleader than journalist throughout this whole issue.

 

In the case of journalism, the audience should never be able to assume your political stance.

About the only cases, as the exception, are Sebastian Junger and David Wood. Although both are self-confessed liberals, neither try to sway the audience’s politics and go out of their way to provide a voice to all sides. Even as a more center-right conservative, I would defend both of their journalism as close to the gospel truth.

In other words, journalists can confess their bias. But it should be to clarify to the reader how their work might be slanted... not to say, it’s this way or the highway.

That’s what journalism should look like. And we did not receive that on this issue.

 

They should be suing FIFA.

Good luck with that ladies

 

Ah...finally some nuanced reporting

"USWNT should focus equal pay fight on FIFA, not U.S. Soccer"

 

Wait....did I just read an actual level headed sports article based on reason and logic on Yahoo Sports??? Maybe this quarantine is having some unintended benefits....

 

I may be crazy but I wonder if the ruling is allowing some of the writers to feel more comfortable with level headed fact based articles now that they have a legal ruling to fall back on. Even Grant Wahl who has been a complete cheerleader has come out and said the women's best chance is to negotiate with us soccer instead of the through the appeal.