The 2020 Election Mega Thread

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  1. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Other than polling, how do we know that this many really switched? Might it not have been the polling equivalent of “yeah I know he’s racist.....but I’m not....because I have a black friend“?
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It's the best data we have?
     
  3. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Which brings me to a corollary to my earlier point....I will remain convinced that the millions of people who claim they voted for Obama and then for Trump merely claimed to have done so to publicly excuse themselves for knowingly voting for a fascist to be President.....until proven otherwise.
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Greatest rap ever. As relevant today as the day it was made.



    "bad cough"
    "laid off"
    "man's in the basement mixin' up the medicine"
    "keep a clean nose"
    "get sick get well"
    "don't follow leaders"

    It's all there.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is misogyny. Any Male would be better than a woman.
     
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  7. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Well she's young but she'll grow out of it.
     
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  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not crazy to suggest it.Thats where you have some one in the campaign suggest it to some other Dem lawmaker to point out so the candidate stays above the fray.
     
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  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Allen Ginsberg Background rep, not Bob Dylan Rap Rep.
     
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  12. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Precisely my point. The candidate should stay out of that talk (as a Democrat ... we all know Trump could get away with it). This is the work for a PAC to dump these insinuations.
     
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  13. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    It may just be that universal healthcare coverage is no longer viewed as a crazy, far left, communist idea. Which it really isn't, so that would be progress.
     
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  14. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paul Krugman destroyed McConnell stupid "bankruptcy" suggestion.

    “This is stupid on multiple levels. For one thing, states don’t even have the legal right to declare bankruptcy; even if they somehow managed all the same to default on their relatively small debts, it would do little to alleviate their financial distress — although it could cause a national financial crisis.”

    “The idea that this is specifically a blue state problem is ludicrous. Fiscal crises are looming all across America, from Florida to Kansas to Texas — hit especially hard by crashing oil prices — to, yes, McConnell’s home state, Kentucky."

    “And if states and local governments are forced into sharp budget cuts, the effect will be to deepen the economic slump — which would be bad for Donald Trump and could cost Republicans the Senate. So yes, McConnell’s position is stupid. But it’s also vile.”
    “Last but not least, let’s talk about McConnell’s hypocrisy, which like his stupidity comes on multiple levels. At one level, it’s really something to see a man who helped ram through a giant tax cut for corporations — which they mainly used to buy back their own stock — now pretend to be deeply concerned about borrowing money to help states facing a fiscal crisis that isn’t their fault."

    "At another level, it’s also really something to see McConnell, whose state is heavily subsidized by the federal government, give lectures on self-reliance to states like New York that pay much more in federal taxes than they get back.”
    “Of course, McConnell has an agenda here: He’s hoping to use the pandemic to force afflicted states to shrink their governments. We can only hope both that this shameless exploitation of tragedy fails and that McConnell and his allies pay a heavy political price.
     
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  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the Republican voters love the phrase and that is the only thing that matters.
     
  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's why I read about things like asking for the adult whose birthday is earliest in the year to make it random within the household. If women are more likely to answer the phone, and 75 percent of people who are surveyed are women, even tripling the results from each man to make it be half from men and half from women may be worse than sampling an equal amount of men and women (and now there are people who don't consider themselves either gender).

    Take Michigan of Biden 46%, Trump 38%, and 16% undecided. To make a tie at 50%, Trump would need to win the undecided 12%-4%, meaning he needs three-fourths. Furthermore, the undecideds could include people who have already decided that they will vote third party or write-in a candidate who isn't running. If you make 3% (18.75% of 16%) as people who have decided they will vote for somebody else, Trump needs to win the undecided 10.5%-2.5% to make a tie, meaning he needs 80.8% of 13%.

    A person could change how he or she votes because of who he or she lives with, or because of a situation that neither him or her nor any politician could have changed or prevented. Just like there's macroeconomics and microeconomics, people may not realize how people can decide who to vote for on a micro level that even if it is under 1 percent of an area could decide an election. The media isn't going to focus on things that affect a tiny amount of people, but if you want to name as many things as possible that could affect why people vote the way they do, there could be things that experts don't think of.
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If there wasn't a 30 minute time limit, I would have edited my post instead of making a new one. Not that the accusations against Biden aren't serious, but if this true, it's much worse:

    1253785676274970625 is not a valid tweet id
     
  18. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Sanders’s seat at the table at the convention in danger? Turns out there is a rule that statewide delegates could be removed from any candidate that isn’t still in the race.. The rule hasn’t been enforced before but the DNC said previously it would this year... If the DNC holds to their previous comment, it could mean Sanders would lose a third of his delegates and it would be virtually impossible for him to get the 25% necessary to get a representative at the table..

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...-his-delegates-making-for-a-messy-convention/
     
  19. rich loc

    rich loc Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I was listening to some political analysis a few days ago which was discussing this China/Biden thing

    Trump campaign already spent 15m on facebook ads pushing the idea that China is to blame and the Joe and Hunter are corruptly mixed up in it all.

    Team Biden is punching back hard on Trump's failure to handle the crisis and of course they have all this great video of Trump praising Xi

    The feeling was this latest "Ukraine" is unlikely to work well for Trump but there you go
     
  21. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When did that start making a difference?
     
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  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant more on the fact she doesn't really have any experience at politics outside of her time as First Lady and that there are more qualified people for the position.
     
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  24. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    HRC had zero experience when elected to the Senate after Bill's term was up.

    I would say Michelle Obama would be more competent than others that actually were elected to the position.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It looks like Obama is going to be part of Joe's coalition of campaign faces
     

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