See. Old Geezer gets to do his shopping early in the morning, so that 4x4s does not need to wait in line at afternoon.
My only worry about this "relaxing" of measures is that public transportation will basically be packed again. I live near and use the arguably busiest line of the city. Even during recent full lockdown measures, the subway had decent traffic. No idea how things will be iflet's say, 30 to 40% of the people return to work. We're basically right back to being stuck next to each other.
Yes, but them having hours to shop in the morning doesn't mean they are forbidden from shopping in the evening. nearly everybody i know complains about the attitude of risk groups in public. Hence why to be honest, i don't give a f*** about them. It's up to everybody to protect himself. If somebody doesn't care for himself, why should i? This is the guy i mentioned earlier. He unfortunatelly proved to be a massive Bild shill and his study is as dangerous as it is geared towards getting to the result that the lockdown is an overreaction. Independent scientists have commented on the study: "Lacks substance and conclusive explanations" was the comment of Germany's leading virologist Christian Dorsten. The Study claims that at least 15% of the country is immune to the virus. But that is not only not proved by the results, the method used is categorically wrong. The test used has not been approved to be used as proof of an immunity of Covid-19, and Gerard Krause from Helmholtz nstitute for Infectious Deseases even said that there are no tests at this wide range that could conclusively proove an immunity against Sars-CoV2. Overall the study is being panned as dangerous, calamitous and motivated by people that want to use the results for their agenda.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wissen/heinsberg-studie-herdenimmunitaet-kritik-1.4873480 It's German, but the quotes i posted are from the article. The study is being paraded by all Axel Springer publications (Bild for example), with which Kai Diekmann used to be a huge part of and who now created the agency with this doctor. Currently Kai Diekmann is head of operations at Uber Germany, a company that has suffered severe losses to the virus and the lockdown. He's really hammering down on this herd immunity thing. I think Merkel said it best. We'll see numbers going up, but eventually measures will not be taken to have the numbers go down, but to remain as high as hospitals can manage until there is a vaccine.
I don't know about the US but over here they've been hammering us with the idea that relaxed measures don't mean we're changing anything. No touching, no pointless meeting in public, to quote a politician "fun will not be a priority until the end of the year", meanwhile a lot of social media accounts I follow in the US post Videos of people vibing and celebrating together with "me and the squad when quarantine is over". I think this is the difference in leadership and discipline. To try and communicate to people that relaxed measures don't change anything. They are a forced step to take because of the economic situation. To quote Merkel "if we let ourselves go, the situation will be much worse than it ever was". I think this hasn't been communicated enough in the US. That in order for things to return to normal, we either need to be in a phase where we can tell the remaining cases by name, or when there is a vaccine.
Yep. Some of the death estimates have been revised down, primarily because of social distancing and other measures. Which means the experts were right. Of course, in certain political circles that will be interpreted as "the experts were wrong and Trump has done a fantastic job lowering the death toll from 150,000 to 60,000." And then whey they open up too soon, things could quickly escalate again. What's also the case is that the crisis hasn't touched the less populated states as severely, which haven't been implementing the measures of larger states. So there might be a delayed crisis in the rural parts of the country, which primarily voted for Trump.
I expect the upcoming warm summer months will really help things out here in the US. Fingers crossed!
The argument isn't and shouldn't be about costs, it should be a basic human right. Imagine being asked to fight against the odds from birth because they committed the unforgivable sin of being born poor.
So... "Imagine being born Black..." Yeah I said it. Anyways this discussion is far off the rails. People don't even know what Capitalism is and they don't know that system dictate expenditure, access and human rights; not solely economics.
You won't find me arguing against that. The system ensures the perpetuation of inequality and discrimination, then we all pretend to be amazed at how there is a higher crime rate in these communities.
I would suggest being a little more humble about your knowledge and that of others. Capitalism and socialism are blanket signifiers that mean different things in different places and times, just like what you've tried to label as extreme is based on what's assumed as moderate and centrist in a specific context. All of these words are manipulable for various ends. You nor I have an authoritative conception of any of these terms.
Germany is fairly unique in that it has one of the highest number of hospital beds, GPs, Specialist Consultants, surgeries per capit anywhere in the world. This also meant that they could test, en masse, from the onset of the virus outbreak. They are fully prepared and able to cope with the ethos that Merkel laid out. In other words, they can “red line” for much longer than most countries in the world can.
Oh that wasn't directed to you. You clearly pointed to the fact the USA has a rotten system which wouldn't change with more tax money generation. That was for those who don't understand this subject.
The county mayor here in Orlando just announced businesses will be closed at least until early June All projections, even though more optimistic than before, have this lasting through the summer. I think the U.S will have no choice but to throw another stimulus package to sustain the economy
In what way? I thought the myth that the warmer temperatures will "kill the virus" has been debunked?
What hypocrisy. Isn't that what I have said? People are using blanket incorrect definitions? What I label exterme isn't blanket; it's specific. All I have read on here (some of which you have repped) are blanket statements of socialism which I have retorted by breaking down why it wouldn't work in a country like America and what the actually issue are at hand; regulation, putrid system and poor resource management. Instead of addressing those point you do what you preached to me not to. Next time try to not accuse another person of the same thing you're going to do in your post.
I said it weeks ago that this first one was throwing money into an abyss. I think you should remember because you were in the discussion. If they don't find a way to make testing available to all, quick and easy.. then we may need a third. I will say this as well, watch out for August, September... if we don't get this right (keeping things shut down) people won't be able to pay mortgages and the Federal Government won't have the financial capacity to protect against massive foreclosures. Remember I said this
I know, but still, a study conducted as proof that public transportation is relatively harmless with the virus, with the person paying for the study being in charge of a public transportation company is quite honestly a horrifying way of dealing with health issues.
They don't have the power to do that. Its a call that is made on an individual basis (business by business and customer by customer). Trump wanting to open things up soon is just a sentiment. There's no policy to follow through with it.