2020 Coaching Thread

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  1. rustysurf83

    rustysurf83 Member

    Dec 30, 2015
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    What is everyone doing while things are shut down? Our teams are subscribing to Techne Futbol and doing social media challenges so far
     
  2. danielpeebles2

    Dec 3, 2013
    I'm starting to think of what social media challenges we can do to inspire our team to 'play soccer at home' and stay active.

    The club forwarded some links to the team, it really didn't inspire team engagement over our teamsnap platform.
     
  3. rustysurf83

    rustysurf83 Member

    Dec 30, 2015
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Our Club has been doing a pretty good job. They’ve got kids posting almost non-stop with their challenges.

    https://m.facebook.com/ewsurfsc/
     
  4. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Technical question regarding plant foot: do you land on your forefoot or heel? Or is it dependent on the type of strike you are executing?
     
  5. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    Generally speaking when running and jumping you don't land on the heel.
     
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  6. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    My state association held an update video call with DOCs today. They said we're resuming play 4/15. Apparently, we're on the Trumpian schedule. Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead. I can't believe it. I was fully expecting to hear the spring season was cancelled.
     
  7. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    They are going to get a lot of pushback. What will they do if the local governments close the facilities. Most places schools are already closed, if your club uses a school property there will be a lot of forfeited matches and no training.
     
  8. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    My impression is that they've missed the forest for the trees.
     
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  9. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Same in our state. If they start up that soon, me and my kids will be sitting out the spring season.
     
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  10. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Our club directors voted to continue to suspend activities as long as the schools are closed. I guess that's easier for an all-volunteer club to stomach than it might be at a club where peoples' jobs are at stake.
     
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  11. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    The my state association just cancelled everything under its jurisdiction. Tryouts can start 6/22. No soccer at my club until then at the earliest.
     
  12. rustysurf83

    rustysurf83 Member

    Dec 30, 2015
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Going to be very interesting to see the players that are taking a vacation for a few months vs. the ones with self-discipline when soccer and, more importantly, school resumes.
     
  13. jmnva

    jmnva Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I had 3 Zoom meeting this week as my club thinks about about what is happening with our spring
     
  14. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
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    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Might not be a bad thing. Most kids into soccer would've been going 7 months since Aug 2019. Current guidelines say no more than 8 months out of the year.

    You'll have to excuse me, I'm on a different tack these days. I don't see that more is better. It's not "less is more" either—like a drug, let's find the optimal therapeutic amount.

    And I get you may be saying soccer vacation vs activity vacation. I like the idea of them staying active, but not necessarily soccer in the other 8 months of the year.
     
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  15. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    Rest cycles are supposed to be "active rest" not a period of coach potato vegitation.

    This didn't become a problem until club soccer became a year round activity and players were forbidden to play other sports or even forbidden to play any other soccer.
     
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  16. jmnva

    jmnva Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    All of my club's internal programs are cancelled for the spring. Travel programs aren't cancelled since they are dependent on decisions of other leagues
     
  17. danielpeebles2

    Dec 3, 2013
    my son's head coach/trainer has been doing a really good job with virtual training.

    We never scheduled any games in June, I want to tentatively schedule something, but that doesn't seem wise at this point. May 29th is the date for our state. but I'll believe it when I see it.
     
  18. danielpeebles2

    Dec 3, 2013
    one of our parents a few weeks ago: "player will not be at zoom training tonight, because he forgot to do 4 weeks worth of online math, trust me, he'd rather do the training."
     
  19. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Most of Indiana went off of "stage 1" lockdown on Monday. Of course, my county happens to have a pork processing plant with an outbreak so we have 2 more weeks. The ISA released their plan for getting back into soccer if anyone is interested in seeing what soccer might look like going forward: https://www.soccerindiana.org/indiana-soccer-association-return-to-activity-notice/. Basically, training can resume on May 24, but it is only individual work, no chance of contact between players. Then, in mid-June we can go back to normal training.

    My club doesn't have any on-field activities scheduled until training resumes in August, but it feels like there are going to be a lot of changes when the time comes.
     
  20. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I hope this isn't taken the wrong way by our colleagues here that coach for a living, but I'm hoping the pandemic forces a cultural reset in youth soccer in America.

    This post is predicated by some more clubs in my area merging and folding in the last week. BTW, I think this all started when Klinsmann got his way and we switched to birth years. But that's another subject. Before that clubs were pretty stable here.

    Anyway, it's just an ugly money grab. "How many teams/players can you bring (to the merger)?", is the big question on the table for the coaches in these clubs.

    But overall it's just a pretty dysfunctional culture. USDA girls have been folded, which pushes regional "elite" leagues. The MLS DAs, some of which were getting their butts kicked by non-MLS academies—so they separated those out in the new DA system.

    If we want a better national team, we need more kids IN the pipeline not less, and certainly not ones we select at a relatively early age.
     
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  21. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Watched a tryout last night:

    20 mins "ladder-work" (agility) through cones. No ball.
    20 mins slalom through same set of cones. With ball.
    20 mins 1v1.
    Last 30 scrimmage

    Personally, I was bored watching it.

    You're there to evaluate how they play soccer, not how they drill. I've done the ladder work in sessions, use it as a quick 5 minute warm-up. I love the slalom dribble as an unopposed activity, but do it for may be 10 mins (15 max). As an evaluation tool, you're gonna have to teach these kids anyway why drill and kill? We gotta evolve as coaches.

    In an evaluation setting, play the game (1v1, 2v1, 4v4, 7v7 or larger). Could've squeezed the first 3 phases into 30 minutes and then watched them play various games.
     
  22. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    speaking of evolving (our thinking)

     
  23. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    Ah. A coach that talks about soccer without once mentioning "positions" or "formations"! A breath of fresh air.
     
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  24. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    TOVO soccer/Todd Beane (Cruyff's son-in-law) has a similar viewpoint about space manipulation. Obviously, it's nothing new—Cruyff was talking about it in the 70s just repackaged for a new generation.
     
  25. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    #75 rca2, Jun 16, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2020
    I used to call teaching principles of play as teaching kids about space. How to create, exploit and deny it.

    I had really great high school football and basketball coaches. I think not playing organized youth soccer was an advantage. I have yet to see a soccer coach better than my high school coaches. My football coach is in our state hall of fame as a coach. He is a legend in my state.
     
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