Scandinavian/Nordic non-football thread

Discussion in 'Scandinavia' started by Ceres, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    is the video downplaying Scandinavian culture?
     
  2. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
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    AGF Aarhus
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    Denmark
    Had to
    Are you not able to watch it ? ... there is a debate about it, that you may be able to watch then :

     
  3. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
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    #528 Ceres, Apr 5, 2020
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    I'll just add to the 'What is truly Scandinavian ad', that it's full of untrue nonsense ... like Swedish meatballs and rye bread being from Turkey.

    The "fact" of Swedish meatballs being from Turkey was debunked years ago as being a made up myth according to Senior lecturer of the School of Hospitality, Culinary Arts & Meal Science, Richard Tellström, not to forget that it's pork meat, which quite clearly is not a Turkish thing.

    Rye has been around for several 1,000 years and both the Ottoman and older Turkish-Persian Seljuk Empire did not even exist when rye bread was invented. Danes have on the other hand been eating rye bread for way more than a 1,000 years, so the Vikings were surely bringing rye bread with them when going abroad and not the other way around. In any case, rye bread was never popular in the Southern parts of Europe. The Romans (including the Byzantine Empire) absolutely hated rye and dark bread. So rye bread as we know it, is surely a Northern European thing, and not from Roman Byzantium = "Turkey".

    Btw, it's also not quite true that the Scandinavians "stole" democracy from the Greek .. because before Norway and Sweden became actual unified countries, a kind of governing assembly called the 'Ting' ("assembly" and the origin to the English word "Thing"), had developed independently in Scandinavia. Though in Denmark that was already unified under a king and the power structure more centralized, it would have been less of a "Thing" so to speak, mainly to take care of local smaller issues, not involving a King.

    Here in Denmark, free men representing a household, but both high and low, would gather at the local 'Ting' to discuss matters on equal terms, but they were only allowed to speak once to make their case ... so that they would be well prepared and not just waste time by arguing. Though you could ask for a 2nd chance to speak your mind, but then you would have to stand on one leg while doing so, both making you look quite silly, but also to prevent you from making a long speech. Women were actually also able participate and vote, either on behalf of their husband and household, if their husband was not there, or he had died and made her a widow... so that pretty much also debunk that women's rights and voting is not Scandinavian.
     
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  4. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    i watched but wasn't sure if it was satire or not
     
  5. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
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    Unfortunately no ...
     
  6. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
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    Norway
    Ting was in Norse times a public assembly where the people exercised judicial and legislative power.

    We actually use "Ting" in several contexts today . Our parlament is called Stortinget (The big Ting) (Danes call it folketing ? )
    We have the Gulating lagmannsrett . An appeal court (one of six in Norway)
    Gulating is also a beer store today. With the slogan - Let the people decide !
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    Frostating was the name of the Trøndelagens area of law

    The Eidsivating was supposedly created by King Olav Haraldsson (the saint), who was Norwegian king from 1015 to 1028. The local things that had been before were moved to Eidsvoll under Olav, and it was he who gave the area the boundary it later had . The slaughter included the uplands, ie the inner eastern part of the country.

    Borgarting was the ting of the area Viken . Used today in Borgarting lagmannsrett.

    Borgarting Court of Appeal is one of six appeal courts in Norway. The Court of Appeal is a court of appeal in both civil and criminal cases and the jurisdiction includes the counties of Oslo, Buskerud, Østfold and southern parts of Akershus as well as Svelvik and Sande municipalities in Vestfold county.

    Mostratinget was a thing meeting held at Moster Church, at Moster in Bømlo in 1024. Here, King Olaf the Saint and Bishop Grimkjell forward Christian law that the consultation of free farmers in the gate got decided.

    Im sure there are other places where Ting is used today.
     
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  7. IFKgötet1

    IFKgötet1 Member

    May 4, 2012
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    First of vifvaf is correct regarding our corona death number. It will be revised later Im sure. But is correct they are higher than the official numbers. https://www.svd.se/nya-uppgifter-visar-hogre-dodstal

    And yes in sweden we say Landsting. So the word is used here as well.
    A Landsting is a self-governing local authority and one of the principal administrative subdivisions of Sweden. There are 21 regional councils (one of which is a municipality having the same responsibilities as a county council), each corresponding to a county. County councils are governed by a regional assembly (regionfullmäktige) that is elected by the regional electorate every four years in conjunction with the general elections. The most important responsibilities of regional councils are the public health care system and public transportation. (Source wiki)
     
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  8. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

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    #533 Ceres, Apr 6, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2020
    Yes, the present Danish Parliament go by the name of Folketinget (the Folk Ting), and though it's the Royal Christiansborg Palace that is the seat of the Folk Ting and Supreme Court, it really could not be more down to earth than that, or it's name more straight to the point .. because it is the peoples parliament, where every voice and every vote counts.
     
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  9. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I was bored while at work earlier so I was reading about American special forces on wikipedia. Some stuff which I was vaguely familiar with and others a newsflash. So just to add some more discussion i was curious what you guys knew about the elite units from your country. Seeing as so many have served in Iraq and Afghanistan, there must be some mainstream recognition in your countries.

    there was a norwegian series a few years back called Nobel that followed some Norwegian SOF personnel. Pretty decent show though I always forget the lead actor's name.
     
  10. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Norwegian military is pr now stationed in -

    #Egypt through the Multinational Force and Observers (MFO), Norway is helping to monitor the peace agreement between Egypt and Israel.

    #Norway still in Bosnia Herzegovina with Nato for peacekepping and stability .

    #Afganistan , now mostly for training of the Afghan special police. We had around 600 soldiers in Afghanistan at the most. Much of the focus was in the Faryab province. Norway lost ten soldiers in Afghanistan.

    #Kosovo . Norway has contributed with personnel in the Kosovo Force (KFOR) since 1999. Norway has been strong in Kosovo from its inception in 1999 to 2004, when the contribution was reduced in parallel with the escalation of efforts in Afghanistan. Around 900 Soldiers contributed at the most.

    #Norway supports the Mali authorities through the UN operation MINUSMA.

    #Irak/Kuwait/Jordan . Norway is a part of the international coalition that helps Iraqi security forces .

    #Lituania . Norway has 120 Soldier in operation Enhanced Forward Presence. A German lead Bataljon to show more presence in the Baltics and Poland.

    Denmark and Norway is a part of the de Task Force K-BAR. Joined by Canada , Australia , New Zealand , Croatia , Turkey, USA and Germany .

    Most off the Norwegian special forces stories isn't a very official part of the media. There are stories in the media a few times , maybe a report in the news , or a TV series like Nobel .But most of the info is I think Scandinavian special forces are considered to be of high quality . And everyone respects our brave men and women . Norway used to have conscription or compulsory military service. Today it is about 1/3 of the the youth that have to serve. This is after a elimination prosess .
    The Military has started to create great adds to recruit people to the military .





     
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  11. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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  12. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    It keeps snowing in the north.
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  13. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
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    #538 Ceres, Apr 8, 2020
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    Snow in April ? .. we had sunshine and 20 degrees celsius (68 Fahrenheit) yesterday.
     
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  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    what planet is that?
     
  15. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
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    Norway
    #540 vifvaf, Apr 8, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2020
    This is north of the arctic circle in Tromsø and on the mountain passings. But still it is a big amount off snow to be in the north.

    Norway has several mountain passings that has to be open for spring. During the winter we have convoy driving over some mountain passings. Convoy driving can be challenging if there is a stop.


    This is south of the arctic circle in 2015




    Convoy driving


    Many Norwegians are used to visit there cabin in the easter. Or just wants one last touch of snow before spring . This easter will be a challenging time for many Norwegians as we are not allowed to visit our cabins outside our home county until April 20
     
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  16. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
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    #541 vifvaf, Apr 8, 2020
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    Fjolls til fjells (Stupids in the mountain)




    The original from 1957
     
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  17. IFKgötet1

    IFKgötet1 Member

    May 4, 2012
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    Wow! That must be far up north right, because we had around 18 celsius the other day in western sweden ol.
     
  18. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
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    Norway
    Some of the places are in the mountains and just hight above sea level.
     
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  19. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
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  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
  21. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
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    Norway
    A bit off topic , but the Germans are pressuring Norway once again. This time it is about the windmills in Norway. There is a huge resistance towards the German owned windmills in Norway. The Government is starting to feel the pressure from the people with protest , civil disobedience and media .
    This could with other cases where the EU with Germany in front pressures Norway, can change the political poles in Norway . Do we really want to scarify Norwegian nature for others failure.

    Now the Norwegian government has started to fall for the pressure. This resulted in a "threat" of a trail from the German ambassador in Norway . The destruction of Norwegian nature.

    https://www.nrk.no/nordland/tysklan...-nei-til-andmyran-vindpark-i-andoy-1.14974560





     
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  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I quite enjoyed that Max Manus film from a decade ago as well as Flammen og Citroen. Really well done production values as well as engaging plot.
     
  23. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Hvordan skal Norge feire 17de Mai iår? Ingen barnetog eller? Det blir synd hva?
     
  24. jjkoggan

    jjkoggan Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Is owning a "hytte" in Norway still a passion for most Nordmenn?
     
  25. vifvaf

    vifvaf Member

    Nov 28, 2008
    Norway
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    Valerenga IF Oslo
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    Norway
    Absolutely !
    There is actually a bit of overcrowding in the wood on the east side of Norway because of the cabin ban. It is a part of our culture to go to the cabin, the mountain or to the woods in the free time like the easter. Thousand of people take to the nature in the nice weather . And hundreds if not thousands use the opportunity to sleep outdoors in their local woods.

    There are around 437 000 cabins in Norway . Swedes are the biggest group of foreign owner . But 97,5% is owned by Norwegians. Many Norwegians also own cabins in the west cost of Sweden.
    There are also a lot of people using caravan and camper vans. Estimating around 250 000 caravans and camper vans.
     

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