The Random Thoughts About Anything, except VAR, Thread [R]

Its not just NY. The US is now the epicenter of the virus .Something like a Pandemic Response Unit probably would have been very useful me thinks. Being prepared as much and as early as possible .

Another good piece comparing how Canada responded compared to the US.Also touches on NY's issues.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6737474/coronavirus-new-york-canada-responses/

 

What a stupid fkn post. Just more deflection from a repugnant from how well the the so called leaders of the country are running the show.
Isn’t it good to know how safe we are with the Dotard in charge.

 

Again.

That’s fkn deflection of the worst kind. The so called President of the United States, Leader of the free world. The man who said that the15 cases will be gone next week and the virus will disappear like a miracle.
He is the man who is supposed to lead the country out of this.

His message of hope today after being told New York is running out of critical supplies. He said it’s New York’s own fault for not stockpiling supplies when they heard the virus was coming. Bearing in mind that was the same timeframe as when Trump said a miracle is coming.

 

No, Ken, it's really the case that Cuomo ignored the fact about 5 years ago that NY was not going to be prepared for this kind of disaster.

I understand trying to reassure people that the epidemic is going to pass and not become a pandemic, and in late February, the US was not in bad shape. But each state governor needs to take responsibility for how prepared his state is for emergencies. If you, as a governor, need to call on the Federal Govt for assistance in a crisis, you better be able to explain how things got out of hand if you ought to have been better prepared.

Cuomo can't do that.

Now, the other crucial issue is this: The Democrats do NOT have a viable presidential candidate for November's election. Biden is a train wreck Sanders isn't who the mainstream of the Democrat party want to lead the country through the next decade. They know that hardcore socialism isn't going to work. Pointing to the successes of the Scandinavian nations isn't enough evidence when Venezuela is decomposing in So. America, just to our south.

Cuomo may be the current darling of the Democrat leadership but he's vulnerable, too.

So...even conceding that Trump has mismanaged the situation, the constant barrage of attacks are principally political, and you know that's true.

Finally, pointing out the failures of some of the Democrats in key positions isn't deflecting. It's balancing the teeter-totter.

 

Regardless of fault, when we do eventually get out of this mess (I'm losing hope by the day); we need to make sure that we are prepared for the next disaster. I have a feeling that it won't be as cut and dry as this one (and it's far from cut and dry).

If we can pump *checks notes* $748 billion into the military, we can find money for this. This is the real enemy we'll be fighting in the future. Biological and technological (now I sound like the Borg) vs an actual army.

F ucking so over this garbage year.

 

The real game here isn’t about pandemics, quid pro quo, or even rolling back Obama era legislation. That all can be mitigated/reversed. It’s about changing the ideological profile of the courts. That’s far more permanent. Absent a strong presidential candidate the Dems have to rely on Pelosi and co finding a way to weaken or even remove Trump. The courts are what is making it such a high stakes game imo.

 

If Charlotte, NC were the epicenter and suffering I'd understand and be wondering why federal assistance wasn't diverted on Day 0 of the problem - why would they have a reason to be prepared for a disaster of this magnitude?

But it's f*cking NEW YORK. The #1 terrorist target in the country. Where disaster could always be just one heartbeat away. And those f*cking corrupt, bankrupt morons can't accomplish the single most important function of government: keep your people safe.

 

It’s also the target of Trump. It’s a democratic City and State. Therefor the enemy to be deprived of survival equipment

let them die! They can’t vote.

 

The larger denser populations like NY are really difficult to contain once there is community spread. The virus would likely have been circulating for a while . Look what China did in Wuhan , essentially sealing off millions of ppl. It worked but I doubt we'd ever see something like that in a democracy. We need cooperation from the citizens and the better the coop the sooner things turn around.

Paul Offit, an infectious disease expert at the University of Pennsylvania, said the severity of the novel coronavirus was “largely ignored” by the U.S. government until there was already community spread.
“We were very slow to to prohibit travel into this country from China or regions in that area where the virus was circulating,” said Offit. “When we finally did that, it was too late.”

The country’s pandemic preparedness plan — put together in response to the 2009 H1N1 virus by Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci — was also scrapped by the Trump administration, which Offit said left the U.S. ill-prepared for the COVID-19 outbreak.

In New York City, high population density and social determinants of health such as income and housing are factors, according to Cynthia Carr, epidemiologist and owner of EPI Research in Winnipeg.

“You have people living in very overcrowded apartments and living situations, and those people will be at even higher risk,” she said.

Sandra Albrecht, a social epidemiologist and assistant professor at Columbia University, added to this.

She said the city’s status as a travel hub for international and domestic tourism makes it particularly vulnerable when faced with a pandemic.

“In many ways, it’s what makes NYC a unique and exciting place,” Albrecht said.

“But when it comes to infectious diseases, the population density — having people so close together — is what makes it easy for them to take hold, and to spread so quickly.”
New York City also has large pockets of marginalized populations, who Albrecht said are at an even higher risk of becoming infected with COVID-19 and experiencing more severe disease.

 

The moment sacked aircraft carrier captain is given a standing ovation by his crew as he walks off the warship for last time after writing controversial letter as sailors are moved into hotels.

Captain Crozier clearly loved by his crew.

 

I find Newsy's coverage to be good. Just got YouTube TV recently -- for the sports, alas, and it has Newsy. I can't stand watching the other networks, except perhaps PBS and BBC.

 

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Stilton: Not guilty.
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Yeah - me too!

 

If Rex Tillerson were to stand for election and get enough votes to be elected, why would he have less right than James Baker or Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton.

At one level, Rex would be less qualified than those others, having not spent a large chunk of his life in politics. However, and here's the crucial distinction to be made - were he to stand for elections he would presumably stand on some rational platform, and the platform would most likely be not completely disingenuous and manufactured and deliberately fuelled out of deliberate generated impulses designed to ignite ill-informed people's anger.

That (its opposite) used to be the logical rational way to attainment of high office. When it is attained in other circumstances by a fraudster the situation is no longer comparable to the normal electoral outcome.

Tillerson would be suitable if he didn't suddenly develop narcissistic personality disorder. Even if he did develop that bulwark to any further capacity for self and societal understanding, he'd probably be much further along (than where Trump started) in terms of valuable life experience in terms of its useful working lessons. Something obviously missing in Trump, whose lessons learned seem to all have been of the extremely mean-spirited sort.

 

And it doesn't occur to you that New York is Milan and Chicago and Miami and Los Angeles are Rome and Madrid and London, etc?

No city has enough of anything stockpiled, apparently. So,. that's hardly a pointer for defining gross political incompetence. I'm not saying that Cuomo isn't incompetent (I have no data). But he doesn't seem like an incompetent. He seems like a guy who can get things done when working on them. Guess who doesn't seem like that?

Now, why would American cities not have enough stocks of necessities? Where does all the money get sucked out of the american economic sector into? In a way that doesn't happen in Europe?
Therein lies the answer to most of your problems when they erupt like this.

 

There's no way that I've ever been anything but somewhat left of center, but I still class myself a simple centrist. But I never found too much disagreement with right of centre people concerning any methodology of governance. The problem with the US (exacerbated since the late 80's with the virus of talk-radio, and then multiplied by the vexative stupidity of the internet) is that people are (not) made incapable of understanding that since around 1950 most other first world governments have at one time or another (and without great regret) adopted forms of state socialism, and that there is inherently nothing wrong with these things (they help stabilize society by allowing everyone the chence to a modicum of enjoyment), unless you happen to think that it is wrong to structure government around the basis that the very rich have a portion less and the very poor have a portion more, and that secretive organizations should be restricted from control of power, not given every means to enhance this (the Supreme Court in Citizens United, a simple example). The way that media manipulation has maintained this farce in the US is the biggest joke in history - and it wouldn;t have happened were it not for one man - the man who should really be dealt with - Rupert Murdoch.

 

You should read my posts...

 

I try............................................but I fall asleep.

 

this will make your jaw hit the floor ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/america-rightwing-christian-preachers-virus-hoax

 

Science is not in their vocabulary.

 

The Bible Belt at its best. A uniquely American form of organized insanity. Try googling Ark Encounter. You can’t make this stuff up.

 

imo it's not clear if they are truly religious ppl. a lot seem just like money making schemes.