Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I was also stunned that he felt Nasri was one of players whose “attitude” matched his own. IIRC “attitude” was what derailed Nasri’s national team career.
     
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  2. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sagna doesn’t need to worry, he was consistently good

    more like bendtner and players like that I bet
     
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  4. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This is exactly what I was thinking. Something's not right if you're on the same mental level as Nasri
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Something I'd caution against - based on having scripted 100s of hours of content in recent years

    When people give these kinds of interviews, they tend to use single anecdotes to stand for a bigger picture.

    So the guys laughing on the bus. Cesc is not disappointed at them for laughing on the bus. Rather when he accessed his visual memory of the group he is talking about - that was the very specific memory he dragged up. I suspect it relates to the exact time and place when he really felt he was done with them and i would guess it was after that Bolton game.

    But as he played and trained with these guys intensely I am sure he has a broad base of experience on which he bases his comment.

    With Nasri, I have long criticised him because he left having compiled half a decent season in a row. But I don't think that was what Cesc was getting at.

    I think he felt RvP and Nasri were the only world class talents on the team, who really wanted to win. I do think Nasri demonstrated he could cut it in the big moments - but as we all know, he had other issues. Indeed all of RvP, Nasri, and Sagna left for title winning teams precisely because they had the mentality and belief to cut it.

    This is really why I wish AM had asked some followups, so that we don't have to base so much analysis on one sentence.
     
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I think he is more describing his personal connection with Nasri and RvP when he says they were on his level. i.e those 3 guys were aligned in terms of ambition and approach

    Cesc was the leader of the team, and reading between the lines, he is describing his disappointment in certain guys who lacked commitment.

    His disappoint in van Persie was simply that he could not get on the field by contrast
     
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  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Peter Odemwingie... remember him?

    I just watched an interesting segment of PL World, where I learned of Peter’s golf exploits.

    He picked up the game in 2014 while winding down his career at Stoke. Within 4-5 years he was a scratch golfer. And now he has just turned pro.

    That’s damn impressive, don’t you think @Jamooky?

    OK maybe Steph Curry could beat him but he’s played a ton since he was a kid. Peter started at age 33.

    If he can’t make a great go of it in some pro tour, he has thoughts of going back to Nigeria and coach/develop The game there.

    Cool story.
     
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  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Didn’t he drive to qpr on deadline day only not to move in the end?
     
  9. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been playing golf for 25 years and I'm in the low 80s . . . so I'm not sweatin' it either. :p
     
  10. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. I consciously decided to not bring that up. ;)

    But that was an entirely naive/ballsy thing he did, depending on your POV
     
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  11. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How's everyone holding up?

    Just did an online lesson on the development of factory towns during the Industrial Revolution for my 9th graders.

    Never wanted to see a Bradford - Sunderland match more in my life.
     
  12. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Organized chaos here between two parents trying to work with a 3.5 year old and 6 month old. My wife is a teacher so thankfully he eLearning during the day consists of answering students emails, however at night and weekends she is recording lectures.
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Had a bad day yesterday

    Cooked up a storm and had no appetite to eat it. Went to bed early and woke up to some good news.

    Mental health pauses help
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    So many families struggling with this including us!

    Lucky my kids are 13 and 11 and being very good home learners
     
  15. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I've been swamped at work, like log on at 8 am and shut down at 11 or 12, so there's that. My kids are on the verge of going insane because they've only gone outside to play in the backyard.
     
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  16. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Hang in there, and stay safe. You still in NZ?
     
  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yep.

    The day got off to a terrible start when on a zoom with the kids my mother announced she had heard on the radio I would be trapped here for 6 months

    Took an hour to undo that clanger
     
  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Overall we're healthy & safe, but it's gonna take a lot more isolation, diligence (and some luck) to keep it that way.

    My kids are college age so they thankfully don't require much if any maintenance. But my 21YO daughter is very clearly not wanting to be cooped up with parents and sibling for weeks/months... plus she was the one "trapped" in Morocco so I'm sensing some possible PTSD... hopefully that'll diminish.

    Our parents (the 3 that are still with us) are all around 90 so if they get the virus, they're done for. And my dad's in a retirement home which just announced its first positive test case last night. Something tells me that ride might get a little wild.
     
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  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Fingers crossed for you mate.

    I signed my dad up to the priority food home delivery service for high risk oldies

    The online form asks "do you have any of these risk factors. include any that apply"

    My dad has ALL of them :ROFLMAO:

    Basically his food will be delivered by Medevac helicopter:p
     
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  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I’m back at work after uk asthma in line with the nhs changed the peramters

    delivering un needed items for greedy fcuks in a big yellow van

    my employer running with this ‘key worker’ shit liberally
     
  21. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Me too. My son is doing okay. His juggling numbers are getting ridiculously high. Maybe he can get a job as a youtube freestyler at some point. My sanity is okay. The midnight to 4am raves with 400 people in a small unventilated abandoned warehouse, I find, have been really good for me to unwind.
     
  22. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I've been isolated enough that my sarcasm detector is starting to break.
     
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  23. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I on the other hand find my sarcasm motor is in overdrive. However, since it’s typically reserved for political incompetence, it hasn’t created any schisms on the home front.
     
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  24. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Count my kids among those missing school/work by now, especially since this upcoming week is Spring Break and we can't go anywhere. We'll get in a nice hike or two and treat to some take-out, but if that's the highlight of your "vacation" then it sure doesnt feel like living.

    Meanwhile I'm just hacked because the shutdown interrupted my burgeoning return to the gym after surgery. Had a nice run going and now that's all been shot. Damn you, Carole Baskin!

    I the bright side I see TP is appearing on store shelves again...
     
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  25. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    You all call it "self isolation" but to me its called "having a shit personality and being alone every weekend".
     

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