Matt Miazga playing for Alaves

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  1. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    science nerd-dome goes beyond borders.
     
  2. DHC1

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    Just like there are Europeans who are happy to do the same. So what?
     
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  3. matabala

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    Sep 25, 2002
    You are simply naive to the fact the CCP has had (and continues to have) an official state-sponsored program to "steal" intellectual and technological information from the US. Biomedical is NOT excluded in that list.
     
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  4. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

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    #6979 Bruce S, Mar 30, 2020
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    Ive lived in this world my whole professional life. This is like Mexico sending us rapists and murderers. It’s foxnews nonsense. You can point to anecdotal evidence for both. I’ve known literally scores of Chinese scientists and I know exactly one who went back. Because he wasn’t good enough to get a job here.
    PS-they don’t have to steal our IP because they have often just ignored it. Like India and other less developed nations. That IS a problem.
     
  5. Calling BS

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    Jan 25, 2020
    Sanders won the youth vote and Biden won the elderly vote. Of those two, who do you think is the stronger candidate when addressing climate change? Its not even close.

    Climate change is much like this virus. Many are just now waking up to the devastation that is ahead of us. Still many more are still too short sided to see how this will change society for a long time to come, just like climate change.
     
  6. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

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    The only people waking up to the devastation of climate change are Tea-party Republicans. Are you going to vote for tRump if Bernie is not the Dems nominee?

    The tRump admin is rolling back clean air, water, and mpg standards set up by the Obama/Biden administration now. Do you want 4 more years of that?
     
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  7. The Irish Rover

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    The Europeans don't have their governments urging them to do it, recruiting and training them to do it, pressuring them to deliver results or the prospects of their relatives back home will be impaired, etc.

    That's a pretty big difference.
     
  8. The Irish Rover

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    Biden, and it's not even close.

    There's a very simple reason for that answer. It's that Biden might get elected and, if he does, can bring enough Democrats into the Senate and get along with enough of them to get something half-decent into law.

    Sanders won't get elected but, if he does, will lose House and Senate seats galore in "down-ballot carnage" and will get the same amount into law on climate change, and other issues, that he's got into law during all those decades he's spent on Capitol Hill: nothing.
     
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  9. The Irish Rover

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    Biden is a coalition candidate, Sanders is a factional candidate. If you liked Sanders and his programme already, you'll like him all the way to November. If you didn't . . .
     
  10. Calling BS

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    Jan 25, 2020
    If the choices are between Biden and Trump I will leave that blank. Neither candidate has done enough to win my vote. Both candidates are corporate socialist and I’m not interested in either.

    What Biden proposes for climate change is like what we are going through now. Being in lockdown without mass testing to identify who has the virus and to isolate those with it is not going to change the inevitable outcome. The majority of people are clueless about what the totality of the impact on life will be to get through this. It is just like climate change.
     
  11. Calling BS

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    And what evidence did you use to come to these conclusions, because most polls showed Sanders doing better against Trump than Biden. Just because corporate media outlets used talking heads to tell Americans these made up narratives, the polls told a much different story. Corporate media was a very powerful influencer for the older generations and swayed the elections. I don’t blame the public for being missed informed about politics, just like I didn’t blame the kids on the beach for being misinformed about this virus.
     
  12. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    ??

    Sounding a bit Trumpy aren't we?
     
  13. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

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    iirc, the way many european countries achieved nuclear status was via state sanctioned espionage against the US.

    Russia and Israel also engage in state sponsored espionage

    this is not to say that China is a benign ally - they’re a frenemy at best and we need to understand when our interests aren’t aligned and negotiate hard when this is the case. Kinda like USSF and MLS!
     
  14. Calling BS

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    Most of the polls showed Sanders doing better than Boden against Trump. The corporate media ignored those polls and told their viewers that Biden was the most electable. Exit polls showed that the voters actually agreed with Sanders polices rather than Biden’s. Yet they voted for Biden because the media convinced the public they had to compromise their wants to beat Trump. I doubt it will work. What I do know is that nothing to stop the climate change crisis will happen under Biden till it’s upon us and it’s too late. It will be just like Trump dealing with this crisis in real time. BTW, Sanders is not my preferred candidate, but it’s clear to me Biden was one of the weakest candidates on climate change. There are plenty of valid criticism of Sanders, including your points about not being powerful enough to change things on his own.
     
  15. Calling BS

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    Fox,CNN, CNBC,MSNBC are all corporate media outlets. Is their anything I said that you disagreed with?
     
  16. DHC1

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    when one looks at the swing states, Biden is far more likely to win than Sanders. Sanders popularity is with young folk who congregate around the bluest of blue states.

    Sander’s no fracking stance would lose him Pennsylvania alone.
     
  17. Calling BS

    Calling BS Member+

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    Fox,CNN, CNBC,MSNBC are all corporate media outlets. Is their anything I said that you disagreed with?
     
  18. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

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    You basically are saying that Biden (if nominated & elected) is the same as tRump, and will do nothing for the environment. Nothing could be further from the truth, as evidenced by every Democratic plank* for the last umpteen years. Plus, it matters not one whit that Bernie is the better candidate, if his own supporters won't go out and vote for him in the primaries. His numbers this year are lower than the 2016 primaries!

    * (From Wikipedia)
    Your own candidate (Sanders) has said that he will support Biden if he is nominated. Biden has said that he will support Sanders if nominated. If YOU don't support the Democratic nominee, whomever that may be, YOU will be supporting 4 more years of environmental havok wreaked by tRump and his corporate cronies.
     
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  19. Ehh? The nuclear knowledge wasnot exclusive to the USA. It was a well spread knowledge and the nazis were pretty damn close to beating the States to the bomb if it werenot for the destruction of the heavy water supply and producing facility.
     
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  20. DHC1

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    the likelihood that these European countries achieved their nuclear status without stealing knowledge from America is ludicrous.
     
  21. Okay.
     
  22. y-lee-coyote

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    Something something about German trained scientists defecting....
     
  23. bungadiri

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    Jan 25, 2002
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    Hi folks. In the absence of soccer being played I'm not terribly interested in stopping active discussions. So let's just say that this is heavily in the "Hmmm...." category, since it's starting to edge toward full blown PCE stuff. Can we at least avoid the debates about particular candidates in the US election, since as far as I know none of them has made a pronouncement about Matt's status at Chelsea or anywhere else?

    Thanks! And I hope you're all healthy and safely hunkered down somewhere.
     
  24. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    how much is ole matt earning? i wonder if he's the 2nd or 3rd highest paid Yank in europe?
     

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