NSR: Coronavirus: A global Pandemic.

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  1. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    One of our lawyers addressed this early. The Supreme Court ruled that Clinton couldn't strike down a line item, but what Trump is proposing is somewhat different, although of the same spirit.
     
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  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If it's anything like hemp for shoes, it will fall apart super easy and not clog your pipes.
     
  3. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No pasta or whole wheat bread here, but everything else is almost normal.
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. But I’m sure there is a very good legal argument about how signing statements and line vetoes are completely different things. :)
     
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  5. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So it does not set a precedent? But, could they refer to that ruling when looking at the issue?
     
  6. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The DNC would run away with this election, and would have won the last election, if they paid attention to their own history. Going all the way back to FDR, Democrats (with the single exception of Lyndon Johnson) win the election if they're younger than the presidential average and have a limited history of public service. JFK, Carter, Bill, Obama all fit this mold. When they throw someone old and well known out there they lose (Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry, Hillary).

    It's really not that difficult. Biden will lose this fall unless millions die from this situation and it's still going strong.
     
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  7. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Great to hear, on the day I flew into Florida!
     
  8. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Our store has (some) pasta and canned food. We don't have frozen vegetables.

    I guess that says something about the coastal Californian diet.

    Rice and any paper still disappear before sane people wake up in the morning, however.
     
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  9. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    It would seem so. But do you trust the four non-Roberts Republican judges to set partisanship aside when making the ruling?
     
  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Seriously! Why is this still happening? How much toilet paper do people need?
     
  11. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well my wife works at one of these plague factories - she came down with the flu last week, but yeah I got my own house
     
  12. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    There's another way of expressing the trend. Nobody who had severed as Senator of either party has won the Presidency since JFK, except Obama, who had barely been a Senator. Hillary, McCain, Kerry, Gore, Dole, Mondale, McGovern, Humphrey, Goldwater. Well LBJ won as an incumbent after inheriting Kennedy's seat but I don't think that counts.

    Some of that owes to familiarity breeding contempt, some of that is just one of those things. I don't think being a veteran Senator automatically dooms Biden, but yes the history isn't good. People like to vote for candidates they don't know and then project greatness on them. That's why we got stuck with this fool.
     
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  13. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    ******** you
     
  14. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

    Arsenal
    Ethiopia
    Oct 2, 2019
    This kinda sums up the current state of leadership in the democratic party. Old, boring and White. I say that as a partisan life long life Democrat. Add a very old Joe Biden to the mix and it just proves a point. Dems really needed fresher, younger more dynamic people and POC to lead it from top to bottom.

     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I honestly think it has less to do with being a senator and more to do with the fact that more dynamic personalities tend to win

    Clinton/Bush/Obama/Trump

    So maybe the issue is more than the candidate pool tends to include too many boring senators
     
  16. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    ASU? I get to talk ASU trash? Ooh goodie.
     
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  17. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

    Arsenal
    Ethiopia
    Oct 2, 2019
    In the U.S votes for POTUS is usually 1)popularity contest and 2) identity. Do I like this person or how much do I dislike the opponent 2) Does this person hold my values, opinions or cares about people like me, are they on my "side".

    The losers in presidential contests are often seen as too aloof, pointy headed, intellectuals, boring, condescending, old and stale.

    Clinton
    Romney
    McCain
    Kerry
    Gore
    Dole
    BUSH 92
    DUKASIS
    Mondale
    Carter

    Look at their opponents personality wise they usually blew them out the water in a number of ways.. hell people voted for Bush over Gore and Kerry based on wanting to have a beer with him than his opponents and he didn't even drink!
     
  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    My guess is by the time they finish burying the bodies, boring and willing to listen to experts will start to sound pretty good.
     
  19. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    Something like a Buttiegieg, Klobucher, Booker, or Kennedy at the top this year in a state they were going to win anyways with someone like Tammy Duckworth as the VP would have run away with it.
     
  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    And, oddly, the 2020 election will be between two teetotalers.

    I wonder if that's ever happened before.
     
  21. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Naively, the 1920, 1924, 1928, and 1932 elections.
     
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  22. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So, the aftermath of prohibition until people started thinking straight again.
     
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  23. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I’m here for you
     
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  24. I betcha that with Pentecost half the church will be empty.
    (hint: look for the missing ones in a place that starts with grave and ends with yard)
     
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  25. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Actually, nothing against ASU. I am just a fossil who thinks that the Pacific Conference should consist of universities that are in states that, ahem, are on the Pacific.

    You're better than Utah and Colorado, you can count on that.
     

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