The 2020 Election Mega Thread

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  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
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    Trump?
     
  2. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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    This is beginning to feel like 2016 all over again....

    Appearances matter

    Even these..[emoji23][emoji23]


     
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  3. ceezmad

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    If is true it is very important, Biden should not be the candidate if this is true.
     
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  4. Kazuma

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    You may not be interested in index funds young man, but they are most certainly interested in you.
     
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  5. argentine soccer fan

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    If the accusations are credible, I think it would be time to look for another candidate. Just having an accusation is not enough to withdraw support from the chosen candidate.
     
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  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    This dude is a such a tool. He has been posting garbage for the last few weeks, from the "Federal government has a plan" to "it is time to reopen the economy". He is just gaslighting at this point.
     
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  7. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    This is nothing like 2016.

    HRC was hated by a larger percentage of the population than anyone expected where Joe is just seen as a goofy oddball.

    The allegations against him are certainly troubling and in normal times would probably knock him out of the race, but these aren't normal times. Unless someone can be put in as a contender, and that isn't Bernie, Joe will be able to overcome the allegation.

    I mean, Bill Clinton actually DID rape Juanita Broaddrick and that didn't keep him from two terms in office. :coffee:
     
  8. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    the allegations against Biden wouldn’t go anywhere even if there was no virus.
     
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  9. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

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    There would just be new accusations against whoever the next guy is.
     
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Men are literally the worst.. Particularly of the age and personality required to make a Presidential run..

    However, even if a woman was chosen, people would create scandals of this sort. Hillary had several run up the flag pole against her and even Warren had at least one trial balloon against her..
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    Clinton's mistake was importing those 300 guillotines
     
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  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    too few?
     
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  13. totti fan

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    I want to, but J's a moderator so I cant
     
  14. totti fan

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    #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoRapesYou
     
  15. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

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    I know.

    Just turning his exasperation back on him.
     
  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    There are other ways to ignore someone that does not require a technological intervention. ;)
     
  17. totti fan

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    Ryan Grimm who has been nominated for two Pulitzer Prizes and was the first reporter to break the Tara Reade story, also was the first to report the Kavanaugh story.

    Tara Reade has been trying for months to come forward. She approached TimesUp, an offshoot of #METOO, a group with financial ties to the Biden campaign but was rebuffed. She also reached out to the Harris and Warren campaigns who gave her nothing.

    The mask is off, this process is rigged. It's time for Biden to step down and for Bernie to be the nominee.
     
  18. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Also, this.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    This is what i have been arguing about the relative meaninglessness of Trump's approval rating in the last 2 years

    It is all about the "compared to what" factor

    is it is all about being slightly less shit than the other guy.

    This is a binary choice between Joe and Nappies

    It's about voting for the guy who is "less shit"

    And Joe is a lot less shit.
     
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  20. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

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    :D:D:D:D:D:D

    Tear down Biden if you want, but the result will NOT be Bernie as the nominee. He has run twice and has been unsuccessful. He has had zero momentum this year and has not generated any new support. If Joe falters, there is not a chance the Party turns to Bernie. He goes to the convention with delegates, but not enough. The Party would advance someone else and open up the convention.
     
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  21. totti fan

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    So you want Trump to win.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    Because it proves the wider point I was making at post 12554

    Indulge me in a story. My dad and his dad before him spent decades fighting for the working class left. It's not just the glory of national politics, but all those grubby little street battles at local council level to stop the frankly corrupt tories robbing the citizens blind. All the door knocking and meetings down the years. That is the real work that get left wing candidates elected.

    In the wreckage of the 2008 defeat (GFC) my dad introduced me to some kids who he said would be the new face of labour. Problem is they were kids so he said there is going to be years of pain while we skip a generation (how true that was)

    Those kids in turned me on to Jacinda who at that time was a unknown list MP doing weird facebook streams of 10 people in poor parts of auckland.

    it's easy to claim Jacinda won the election in 6 weeks but that is ignoring the 9 years of graft those kids did before they landed the miracle shot on the death star

    This is what i mean about context.

    That 9 years of graft meant teachers got a payrise for the first time in a decade

    These are the little gains the kids fought tooth and nail to get, on all those crummy street corners and depressing door knocks.

    Calling Jacinda a fraud or a neo-liberal shill just shows you never knew what the fight was all about.

    Sorry she can't meet your unrealistic ideals and purity tests.
     
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  23. totti fan

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  24. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

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    So because I disagree with you I'm a "tool" lol Wow what they say about you is accurate you really are open minded and accepting of different viewpoints.
     
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  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Switching to Bernie is just as risky. Don't forget that 60%-70% of Democrats voted for someone other than Sanders and that not only did Sanders not attempt to reach out to that 60%-70% of voters, he actively took craps on them.
     
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