Coronavirus COVID19 - Megathread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Eddie, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    One year from now:

    CR7-Messi.jpg
     
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  2. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    This is scaremongering. Some scientists say the figure is closer to 3.3% [/Lyra]
     
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  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
  4. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, there had to be some action taken. 3.25 million people were laid off in a week. In a single week. And it is thought to be more because of system overload. That is going to effect the economy up and down, from the minimum wage worker who is no longer working, to the small business who had to shut their doors, to the community banks who are going to miss out on a lot mortgage payments, to the big companies like Delta and Marriott who are suffering because of the travel restrictions. Much more should been done for the low/lower wage workers, but I've been saying that since I've been in high school. But, apparently, there is a small bit of the bill which does not allow for any money to go to the President's organization or his properties.

    That's John Young and 192, right? Not far from my mom's place. When was that?
     
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  5. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    My friend took that this morning at 6 am on his way to his job of installing kitchens aka "essential job"
     
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  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unbelievable.
     
  7. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
  8. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I will wait for WHO data but this headline is going around.

    ITALY DEATH TOLL FROM CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK RISES BY 919 TO 9,134, POSTING HIGHEST DAILY TALLY SINCE EPIDEMIC BEGAN - OFFICIAL

    To be fair, probably many of those deaths are only due to lack of ventilators. So everybody should feel fine since the actual mortality rate due to the virus is only 0.1% ... :rolleyes:

    @Lyra
     
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  9. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    No part in the bill which impedes his friends and associates though..

    My point is that were already screwed unless this Covid19 disappears. We are taking the right measures but at the wrong time. Had our leadership taken this seriously and put in the right measures to curb thing and flatten the curve (over a month ago) then this stimulus package would be a success (although still handing low interest freebies to billion dollar corporations).

    Due to the situation being completely out of control, we are looking into an abyss. So this stimulus will be a bandaid over a huge crack if Covid doesn't disappear by beginning of May.

    If not we're going to need a second and possibly third stimulus package which of course will benefit corporations over the common man.
     
  10. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Leave the Engerlish alone!!1!
     
  11. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    The dutch also posted some scary numbers today.
     
  12. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't know how well they are implementing the stay at home measures in the Lombardy area or across the country, but they could be past the peak in terms of new infections. But that will only be reflected in the stats down the line days from now.
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The scariest thing about this is that multiple hospitals apparently stopped counting/sending conclusive numbers, they've got their hands full.

    10% of my state apparently has been tested positive for the virus and the claims from the regional government is that we're well prepared but have tough weeks ahead of us.
     
  14. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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  15. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  16. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The assumption that low risk groups will be enough to save the economy is pretty naive. The seed has been planted and personally I canceled every single ticket I had booked for the rest of the year. Tourism sector will be damaged for years, same as sectors like restaurants, bars, concert/event management agencies.

    I don't understand how people think that lifting the lockdown will drastically improve business. Personally if I have to go to work, I'm going and I'm heading right back home.

    It's not like I'm going to be paying 140 euro to go the El estadio der coronavirus next to 20000 potential infected folks.
     
  17. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
     
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  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    Football this season is pretty much done imo. Even next season could have a delayed start.
     
  19. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    This is a morbid reality check for any idiot denying the severity of this virus at this point.
     
  20. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Why would it be naive? Given large enough number it could substantially mitigate economic fallout. Not fully, but still. Secondly in more balanced approach, venues with 20k attendance would be prohibited.

    This nihilistic "let us shutdown everything because we are pretty much fcked" is one way ticket to a place where great depression is number two on the list. I imagine it would be wise trying to avoid that?
     
  21. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
     
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  22. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I already said that but let's assume I open my restaurant and one of my kitchen workers gets sick, and all of my kitchen staff is infected.

    Now I have to:
    1.quarantine my entire business
    2.suffer a gigantic damage in reputation
    3.face potential lawsuits for endangerment

    Not only that.
    One of my guests leaves the restaurant, gets tested two days later, boom, positive.
    1.i have to quarantine the place
    2.i'm the covid positive place that people will avoid
    3.potential lawsuits if it surfaces that the cause was one of my employees

    There is no magic solution in this. Either people risk getting sick and potentially dying or there is no money coming in.

    Even if you round up all immune people and allow them to run around freely, you'll soon have them interacting with family members and other people, and things will get out of control.

    In Ischgl a bar owner knew he had positive people working and lied to keep the Bucks rolling. That's how the virus could spread to Germany as well, because they served a lot of Germans on vacation.


    I have no solution to this, but in order for any plan like this to work, testing will have to be done almost right at your door.
     
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  23. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Closing everything down to save lives is the opposite of nihilism.

    If it came to a choice between the two extremes, maximising my families chances of living through a Great Depression is preferable to having my family die in the midst of a booming economic bonanza.

    I have employees who are on full pay and aren’t working. I’m using savings to pay salaries whilst income is subsistence level. I prefer that to going into work and risking the lives of myself and my staff. We don’t live in a country where we will die if we don’t work for six months or a year. If we did, I might change my position but until then, I’m prioritising lives over money.
     
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  24. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    It would be interesting to see infection statistics in terms of open stores and their employees.
     

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