Funny. I could have sworn that Bernie JUST SAID that he is planning on debating Biden in April. I would agree that he should be out of it, but is not. Hail Mary.
It’s like talking to a wall... And it wasn’t too long ago that the Democratic party was right of center by European standards. AB already covered this, so why repeat what he said. No.. He doesn’t. The dementia issue is a fabrication created by Bernie’s supporters. This is true, but it is also part of his charm. Again.. no.. He doesn’t. While he is certainly losing the youth vote to Sanders, he is not losing the youth vote to Trump. By your faulty logic, Sanders has an African-American problem, a woman problem, a person over 40 problem, a moderate problem, etc, etc. The problem being, the group that Biden has issues with don’t actually vote and the groups that are his strengths are coming out in record numbers to vote for him. Possibly? It’ll be interesting to see what comes of it.
So debates are a threat to BIden? Why wouldn’t he welcome an opportunity to share his ideas and defend them on national tv? What’s there to be scared of?
You said he was done, AND you totally missed the point. I don’t give a rat’s ass about the debate. Follow along. You said he was done. Primary over. Bernie wants to debate. In April. He doesn’t see himself being done. He can’t win by simply running in the remaining primaries. Biden can average 45% and actually get to the 1991 delegates that he needs. So Bernie asks himself, “ how can I win?” Sexual assault allegations. Senility allegations. Bernie has decided to get dirty, ugly and burn the hull ********ing house down. Congratulations.
I am OK with this. But few will watch, given what else is going on, and barring a Biden health problem the nomination is settled.
it is this overall lack of historical context that I find most frustrating and I suspect it is because young people don't know how it was in the 80s and 90s (god I am turning into @Knave ) For instance people in Germany are always amazed when I tell them that NZ was utter shit by the early 80s. Sure we had an egalitarian culture but our economy was ruined and the Tory government ran the place on a locked down stalinist model (wage and price freezes anyone?) So the neoliberal revolution in the 80s was actually brilliant in many ways if you like things like mobile phones, consumer goods, cheap cars etc etc Now of course not everything was brilliant and Thatcher ++++ hurt a lot of people So the 3rd way government was actually a left reaction which combined neo-liberalism with socialism So people stand around saying the 3rd way govts of the 00s were neoliberal shills but they actually did a lot of social justice reform fixing shit from the 80s Then the bad guys got in and racheted up social inequality to record levels So now Jacinda is in and has to address 10 years of right wing damage So that is why i get quite mad with people who say Jacinda or Helen Clarke are just the same old neo-lib crap. No they are not - when seen in their actual context And if you don't want to get shafted good and hard - how about bloody voting to keep the bad guys out?
Last debate was also worthless, but you said something to the effect of, “let Bernie debate and go out on his own terms.” You might have even said something about how a debate would actually allow Bernie to draw his supporters closer to Biden by asking Biden for his commitment to certain things (can’t remember if that one was you). I agreed with you then. Now, however, Bernie and his supporters are simply being flag out destructive. You claim to want to beat Trump, but you are fine with burning the house down. Those are not consistent positions.
I’ll vote for Biden as it looks like it’s a done deal. When I said Bernie is “done” earlier, I meant that his path to victory has closed. If he wants to leverage his platform and a debate to continue to keep the progressive agenda in the discussion, I don’t see any wrong with that. As far as burning down the house? Yahoo has picked up the story about the allegations. It’s not going away. Discussing it is not “burning down the house”
Many of us were shouting at the TV! It was a missed opportunity for him to dig into Biden. An article I read says that Jane and Bernie rebuffed pleads for him to go for body blows. It is what it is. I’ve accepted he doesn’t have that in him, and it probably cost him. Slaying opponents has to be in the cards.
I think it's important for Joe to continue to be tested in one-on-one debates. Something that Bernie and Trump supporters have said is that Trump would annihilate Joe in a debate, and it's important for Joe to be visible and take on that challenge. Think of it like a dry run; when the lights are on and a desperate Donald/Bernie comes out swinging, what does Joe have to say? What questions can he answer well? What needs improvement? These are questions that are much better to be answered now than in September/October.
Joe wasn't tested at all in the primaries! He had the party bail him out and squash on Bernie and the Left before it got real interesting. It's ok his weaknesses and frailties will be exposed for the world to see once Covid19 passes from the scene and boy it's going to be ugly.
Attacks from Bernie have the potential to land a lot harder than from Trump. Sanders rates better with authenticity and favourability with large segments of the electorate.
Bernie wasnt tested until the one before SC. Glad you have decided to stop pretending you were just giving you honest opinion.
It's really got nothing to do with Jacinda but more the naivety that the Prime Minister can just wave a magic wand and undo 30 years of decisions that lead to this place For instance when I was a lawyer we were already selling off all the government housing stock that had been built up over decades For instance, there is no free land to build on left in Auckland For instance, interest rates are high in NZ in part because we have no local banks (sold to Oz) so there is currency factors reflected in the rates - NZ rates are often 3 points higher than germany For instance, the way business flocks to Auckland, where there is no housing stock For instance allowing huge numbers of non-residents to buy NZ property So the idea that you can undo all this in 2 years ... IF you want to seriously address this, then we need to do multiple things at once like 1. Create jobs where there is land for houses i.e. not n AKL 2. Make available much cheaper financing 3 Build a large rent controlled housing stock like we did in the 40s and 50s 4. Start building high density housing 5. Create high speed rail to support your new high density areas This is decades of work.
I am giving my honest opinion mate. I wish Joe the best of luck in the GE. But I'm going to take shots at him now because he needs to be tested before the Republicans dump a billion dollars of hate on him in the fall.
there's a lot to do, so she decides to do nothing. yep makes sense. Whitlam got things done quickly. She's a fraud.